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Offline Kommissar

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2010, 09:17:00 PM »
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Why ?  Its powered armour, isnt it expected that its going to have internal mechanisms and life support stuff built in.  

Besides fans dont have to be paticularly noisy, some of the pc case fans which would work well for this sort of project are nearly silent in use, you certainly wouldnt hear them over the background noise at even a small convention.
the fans used in silk fire torches are noisy however..

have you considered red hot coals half full in the braizer? perhaps a bunch of foam chunks cut to look like rocks, painted black and then dry brushed grey, and blinking red LEDs or fiber optics to give the impression of them still being hot?

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2010, 09:37:00 PM »
I've got several of the silk flames (unfortunately packed in the attic awaiting Halloween) and the fans have a bit of a high pitched wine to them that I don't associate with life support.

Now if he made his own and used PC fans or something like that with a better pitch to them (or softer pitch) I would totally agree with you.

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »
U could also detach silk flames and reattach them to a ladder type setup inside the torch frame to make multiple layered look and with the flur emblems might detract from the fake flame look ...and yes a computer fan wired to a batt. may work quite well search hackaday.com for ideas for building servo's/relay's ect.

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2010, 02:35:00 AM »
Okay, so I was at the Apple store today to see about ordering an Ipad and I was looking at how inexpensive the Nano and shuffle have become which got me to thinking.... [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />

 I should add speakers and an Ipod to the backpack, a sound track for the suit!  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />

 Now my  question becomes this...what songs should I put on the Ipod?
 So if you have any ideas what would be appropraite music, or even fun/rock/eletronica music to put on the play list I'd love to hear it [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

I don't really know classical music so I'm open to anything you guys think might work there.

For fun, I was thinking of putting on :

The Stone Roses "Love Spreads" which has a really awesome intro.

Vixtrola "Gunbaot"

And some others, but I'd like some more ideas


Thanks,

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2010, 10:25:00 PM »
It would be very impressive to see a Canoness come marching down a hallway to the sound of the Imperial March  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
I'm sure people would get out of your way swiftly...

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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2010, 11:41:00 PM »
Okay, I'm in need of some help.

I have a 12v red LED computer fan to power the faux flames on the backpack, I also want to add some more LED's to the faux flames and the ipod and speakers to the backpack. I want to use a lantern battery to do this, although I am not opposed to using differnt battery backs for them.

My problem is I Rz STUPIK when it comes to wiring up circets and figuring out circuits with resistors and capacitors. I mean I took physics and shop class... but that was years ago and I just don't remeber any of it..

So, if anyone out there has the ablity and willingness to help me...


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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2010, 02:16:00 AM »
Well, I dug this up,
http://www.geeksmack.net/forums/topic/3509...ed-pc-case-fan/
 seems it's do-able with a 9v battery, but the speed is slow. The guy talks about adding two AA batteries to juice up the power. So I wonder if you can just run two 9v batteries or that is to much power and I'd need a resistor to back it down.

Hmm, I wish radio shack was still an eletronics store. Be nice to have someone to go ask... maybe I'll hit up the local hobby store...


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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2010, 08:22:00 AM »
Just get a 8xAA battery holder for 12v.  With normal alkaline batteries thats a fair bit of juice (ALOT more than running one of the small 9v PP3's).

No resistor needed at all then and anyway a resistor to cut down power to a fan is not the way to do it.  You will waste far too much power as heat in the resistor and depending on the current draw of the fan/battery setup it might need to be one of the high wattage versions to take it without burning up.  Trust me resistors can get hot enough to set things alight.

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2010, 05:57:00 AM »
Quote from: Finnlock date=1269574860
So, if anyone out there has the ablity and willingness to help me...
I have an engineer friend who I goto for all my electronic fixes. He's always busy but if you can wait a couple months to get your circuit he's the man for the job.

PM me a detail description of exactly what you want done and when you need it by at the latest, and I'll forward that info to him to consider & quote you.

As for the choice of music, maybe one of these? Or several of them back to back...
http://www.google.com/search?q=sister+of+b...ved=0CBMQqwQwAA

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2010, 11:27:00 PM »
So let me see if this is correct.  You want to run a 12V computer fan and several Red LEDs off of one voltage source without blowing up the LEDs, correct?  If you can get me the datasheet for the LEDs I can probably design a schematic for you.

Also, I really need to review and edit this at some time but it might be some help to you:  http://www.highlandcitadel.com/sith/LightingClass.pdf

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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2010, 02:27:00 AM »
Well, I will buy whatever LED's and equipment you think would be best.
I want to run at lest 8 more LED's , 4 on the base and 4 more near the top of the brazzar. I am more then willing to run the LED's off of another power source if need be... [edit] I might want to run 3 more as sort of a power/life support status bar on the back pack, so I guess that ups it to 11 LED's.

 The most important part to me is that the fan run at full speed/power to blow the silk flames strongly.

these are the stats on the fan I bought:

Model
Brand Antec
Model 761345-75022-6
Spec
Type Case Fan
Compatibility Case
Fan Size 120mm
RPM 1500 / 2000 / 2600 RPM
Air Flow 20 / 26 / 34 CFM
Noise Level 18 / 24 / 30 dBA
Power Connector 3 / 4 Pin
Color Transparent
LED Red
Physical Spec
Dimensions 120.0 x 120.0 x 25.4mm
Features
Features 3-speed switch lets you balance quiet performance with maximum cooling
3-pin and 4-pin power connectors provide convenient connections to your motherboard or power supply
Fan-speed monitoring capability included (requires compatible motherboard)
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 year limited
Labor 1 year limited


Thanks for your help!


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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2010, 01:36:00 PM »
You're best bet will be to run the fan seperatly from the LEDs as the motor will be a drag on the batteries and lower your run time.

Two 9v's in series will run the fan no problem but you'll only get an hour or so out of them. 8AA's will run longer with C's and D's running longer still but obviously it gets heavier the bigger you go.

LEDs are easy, assuming you want ultrabrights for the flame you're looking at about 3-4 volts per LED at 20 milliamps. The life bar will be lower power LEDs. Here again you could run them all off a single 9 volt for about half an hour to an hour.  Two 9 volts would give you more time or you could switch to AA's. I've run 40 ultrabright blues off of two 9volts and had them last for hours though the lights aren't continuously on. Anything's doable, it really depends on what you want and how much space you have to work with.

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2010, 08:49:00 PM »
Ok.  I'll try to work up a wiring diagram for you with a parts list over the next day or two.

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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2010, 11:21:00 PM »
Quote from: wookieegunner date=1270514940
Ok.  I'll try to work up a wiring diagram for you with a parts list over the next day or two.
Cool, thank you very much [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />


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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2010, 02:35:00 AM »
For the fan, you should be able to wire one of these on http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch...name=BH48AAW-ND .  For the LED's, I did some looking at found these:  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch...e=365-1557-1-ND .  They are a little warm, but the nice part about them is they run at 2.4V which is the same voltage as 2 NiMH or 2 NICD rechargable batteries.  If you look at the link I posted, it discusses wiring LEDs in parrallel, if you do that you won't need any resistors.

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