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Offline Brother Androx

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Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« on: January 28, 2017, 04:59:42 PM »
Hey all, has anyone tried attaching their pauldrons directly to the arms instead of the chest? 

When I built my SM, I saw tons of ideas like straps, custom joints, speaker stands etc...   But a lot of the fan art, and even the models look like they're attached at the arm. 

If anyone has had success, please post pictures. 

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 04:00:51 PM »
Wouldn't work in real life because nobody (except some powerlifters) has a torso and shoulders as wide as a Space Marine. You could try it but you would not be able to move your ams much because your shoulders are inside the torso.
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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 04:01:57 PM »
Guess we should all start bodybuilding then hahah. At least we'd look the part without armour

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2017, 03:37:51 PM »
Wouldn't work in real life because nobody (except some powerlifters) has a torso and shoulders as wide as a Space Marine. You could try it but you would not be able to move your ams much because your shoulders are inside the torso.

I'll have to give it a shot and post the results.  I did a dry run before I posted my question and I think it can work. 

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2017, 10:34:32 PM »
pauldrons on the arms sounds like a lot of weight for the wearer's arms and shoulders and also limited movement for the arms but too much movement for the shoulders, especially when you're moving the arms outwards.
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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2017, 10:40:21 PM »
What about some kind of system to manuever the pauldrons out of the way when raising your arms? I haven't built a suit yet but I'm also playing with the idea of an arm mounted pauldron system that gives a little more flexibility

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 02:45:08 AM »
the pauldron mounts I made are from LCD monitor brackets...


you can loosen the screws to give you allowance for movement, depends how loose you want the movement of the pauldrons.

But anyway, given if your pauldrons and arms are light enough and you just secure the insides of the arm length tightly to your arms, I do think it's worth a try. You can always separate them (the pauldron and the arm) if you find that the setup is too restricting. ;)
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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2017, 09:55:08 AM »
pauldrons on the arms sounds like a lot of weight for the wearer's arms and shoulders and also limited movement for the arms but too much movement for the shoulders, especially when you're moving the arms outwards.

I don't think that weight is the big issue, but mobility will be a killer.  I recall seeing someone use a castor for their pauldrons and I started to think of a ball and joint like a human hip. 

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2017, 09:58:30 AM »
What about some kind of system to manuever the pauldrons out of the way when raising your arms? I haven't built a suit yet but I'm also playing with the idea of an arm mounted pauldron system that gives a little more flexibility

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I remember Ronan's solution was much like that, but seemed like a complicated build.  I was hoping to simplify the whole idea. 

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2017, 08:11:21 PM »
I was thinking of attaching my pauldrons directly to my shoulder/bicep armour and having a sort of hinge mechanism that moved it down when the wearer raised their arm, with a spring return to reposition it when the arms were lowered again.

When I get around to finally building something I'll prototype it, but I'm fairly confident it'll work as long as the pauldrons aren't too heavy
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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 04:51:35 AM »
At some point you will need to connect the arms to the torso or to some kind of undergarment.  The arms will have enough mass to start drawing themselves down.

personally I think you are better off attaching them to the torso.  I have gone with a universal joint I made out of pvc pipes (see White Scars Build) that attaches to the torso.  It's quite a light setup.  The Pvc pipe joint might also work for what you are thinking of doing. Anything made of metal I think would be way too heavy. 

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2017, 08:27:29 PM »
At some point you will need to connect the arms to the torso or to some kind of undergarment.  The arms will have enough mass to start drawing themselves down.

personally I think you are better off attaching them to the torso.  I have gone with a universal joint I made out of pvc pipes (see White Scars Build) that attaches to the torso.  It's quite a light setup.  The Pvc pipe joint might also work for what you are thinking of doing. Anything made of metal I think would be way too heavy.

I've been watching your build with much anticipation.  I'd love to see an animation/video of the joint in action. 
Both my pauldrons and arms are attached to the shoulders using luggage buckles.  One buckle for each piece.  Helps with storage and travelling. 

However, build #2 will have the arms attached to a harness I'll wear so the weight is on me and not the costume. 

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Re: Pauldrons (not the normal question)
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2017, 04:34:04 AM »
Once I have attached the arms to the torso (luggage straps) I will make a video.  That's a few weeks away.

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