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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2012, 03:11:00 PM »
Yeah,
It's one thing I did learn from my first failed try, that my silicone was WAAY too thin.

I actually ordered the Thixo to go with it and put a little begging note that I needed it by Friday if they could I would love them forever and all that, it got put next day delivery this morning. =D

So, Friday night new time to party.

My current plans for suits of this armour (getting WAAAAAY ahead of myself)
2 x Larp grade sets, these are their primary function, for myself and a close friend who play Sororitas at a larp system.
1 x 'Costume Grade' much better painted suit, more details picked out, different suite of electronics in it (i.e no torch, radio instead like phone cradle and digital photo frame pretending to be a power plant readout) and silly things like Real Gold Guilding the edging.  And possibly a working chainsword prop. (a girl can dream)
1 x Factory regect version, for a different larp character, a rogue trader who essentially bought the armour to protect herself so I get to play an evil, self centred bitch only interested in her own survival in the 'evil' game and not a generic Warp-corrupted-version-of-whatever.
1 x Artificer armour, a suit that I will want to sculpt on and cast over again with extra details to make a Cannoness version of the armour down the road.

This may sound like I'm getting massively ahead of myself, but that's only because I am!!  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2012, 08:44:00 AM »
Getting ahead of yourself or not. There's nothing like having a plan of action, as it means you know what you're going to do next!  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  Pics please when you get your 1st cast.
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2012, 09:00:00 AM »
SINISTER, Vickibrownies, thanks for the information! I'll go back to silently stalking this thread, now [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />
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I adapt to the unknown
Under wandering stars I've grown
By myself but not alone"

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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2012, 01:21:00 PM »
Quote from: SINISTER date=1328795040
Getting ahead of yourself or not. There's nothing like having a plan of action, as it means you know what you're going to do next!  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  Pics please when you get your 1st cast.
 [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/14623/129/emo/0f352eae45b08d26760469319a4704f6.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='0f352eae45b08d26760469319a4704f6.gif' />   [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/14623/129/emo/9cf395a8c958ff16084fd1f2a0ca1cee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='9cf395a8c958ff16084fd1f2a0ca1cee.gif' />
Heh, I have a vague plan for doing just the armour sculpt and such, guess I should eventually write it all down.
As, well, getting copies of the armour are just something that you can do once you have the mould, getting to that stage is the hard part!!

IMHO =D

Yeah, pics are likely to be coming Sunday night or early next week, unless you would like some nice step by step of how I'm trying to do my mould making thing.

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Getting stalked online, so much cooler if you're no silent about it ^^
Why do I think that'll come up against me on court one day. Haha

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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2012, 01:27:00 PM »
I'm much more  a fan of not speaking unless I've got something usefull to say [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />
"...and the earth becomes my throne
I adapt to the unknown
Under wandering stars I've grown
By myself but not alone"

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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2012, 03:35:00 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2012, 11:25:00 AM »
Quote from: Finnlock date=1328949300
Hey Vicki,

 Have you seen this thread?
http://www.405th.com/showthread.php/34672-...lt-pistol-build
I haven't seen that build, but there are loads of bolt pistol from various flavours of other weapon builds out there.
That and I'm using a Stampede because it's automatic!  I've already got a Recon-bolt pistol.

Either way, time to write up my silly busy weekend ...

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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2012, 12:05:00 PM »
Hey, so, real update today!

Such a busy weekend, but I think I shall show you the form of a song ... wait, no, photos.

After a few days of repairing my sculpt, and after getting my Thixo in the post late Friday night I started to use the silicone again;

And then a layer of thickened silicone, and some milk carton caps full of silicone to give the mother mould purchase.  Trust me, I've seen people do it, it's like, totally the pro thing to do!!

So, that I let sit overnight, the next day I separated the entire thing with a dam made of Tin Foil and Cardboard, liberally slathered in Vaseline and Silicone Spray.
Went over one half with a load of Fiberglass, then added more release agent, then did the other side, that was another half one day, half the next day job.
So, I got something like this;

(Pictured, all the parts of this helmet cast, Sculpt, Silicone, Mother Mould.)
Because of how messy the mother was I actually glued a layer of the fleece to the outside so I could manipulate it easily without cutting myself some more.
I basically failed to get any sort of lip around the edge to bolt it, but it did hold together because the jagged edges! Hah, but held it together for the first Roto-cast with electrical tape.
I'll likely actually put some velcro on it so I can open it and close it securely.

So, my first Roto cast came out like .... THIS!!

Heeeeeh!

Good things;
It fits fantastically, even before the vents are drilled out on the jaw line and ears I can hear well and breath good.  The vision from it is great (just not down so much), it's very light and VERY strong, I love it.
This would survive paintball (lol) and will survive larp, that's before I even start to back it up with Glass Matting.

Bad Things:
There are a good number of sagging parts where I failed with seating the silicone, and that in turn has made all of the flaws look worse.  Since it's uniform white, any flaws will show more, so, hopefully painting will make it nicer.
I messed up a little with the insides, so it's a little nobbly, but that's easily avoided next time around.
Whilst I was applying the silicone I seem to have taken a few dents out of it and so they're not a permanent part of the cast.

Anyways, after walking about in it for a FULL HOUR at home, with one of my chainswords and nerf guns threatening my house mates and demanding they Repent I am basically in LOVE with it.
I'm soo happy and I cannot wait until I get to make the chest piece in a few weeks!!

PS
How do I change the title of this thread?

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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2012, 01:18:00 PM »
Looks tops!
Wonderful job and I'm glad it worked out for you!
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2012, 12:02:00 AM »
Excellent work!  It is totally badass!

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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2012, 01:18:00 AM »
Simply superb work! Your skill is considerable and commendable!

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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2012, 01:51:00 AM »
I see PONIES!!!! hehehehe

Looks great!!!

A little bondo and some sanding will remove the dents and make it all nice and GORRAM SHINEY!


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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2012, 02:06:00 AM »
Have you looked into doing the lighting for the eyes?
I can show you how I did mine, but it will cut down on your vision a bit....

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2012, 11:24:00 AM »
Thanks everyone for your kind words!

I am thrilled with it, and getting a good reaction is of course a great bonus!!
Thank you everyone.

Quote from: Finnlock date=1329203160
Have you looked into doing the lighting for the eyes?
I can show you how I did mine, but it will cut down on your vision a bit....

Well, my eventual plan is using using these, when they go into production. behind clear lenses for protection.

But for the moment I'm using Red-Mirrored glass film, over transparent acrylic heat formed lenses glued in place with recessed LEDs in the edges .... or at least that's the plan =D
We'll see how it goes.

I wouldn't mind seeing how you did yours, though I have most of things in place for my approach already.

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I see PONIES!!!! hehehehe

Looks great!!!

A little bondo and some sanding will remove the dents and make it all nice and GORRAM SHINEY!

Well, we don't get Bondo over here but I've been reliably informed that it's just sold under a different name, so I hope it would act the same as other people are used to.
How well would the bondo attach, does it have any give to it, how is it under stress, or would it crack and peel off?
As this costume is going to end up being flexed and stressed (not to mention BEATEN and FALLEN ON) quite a lot, so I would be hesitant to add a layer of extra material if I wasn't utterly secure and impact resistant like the plastic.

However, at the end of the day, nothing in the 40k universe is Iron Man perfect, Spartan smooth, they're all thick slabs of brute metal and have texture in all the art work, so perhaps it'll work out for the best. [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/happy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='happy.gif' />

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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2012, 02:26:00 AM »
Well, I don't know...the guy cancled the project AGAIN. So I would not trust to get those any time soon...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1816244302/go-glospex


As for just having LEDS refelet on a mirrored surface, you will blind yourself while wearing it. I tried this route when I 1st started work on the helmet I made.

So, this is the helm and how the eyes look during the day ( taken at D*con)


This is a close up of the eye.

W/O light


I used a system simmlar to the way people have been doing Ironman helemts.
You can see how the eye is bisected top and bottom. Raven's vison is on bottom 1/2 of the eye. the top half is where the "glow" action is. The top section is semi gloss poster board. It is cut and glued/taped in place. I used black electrical tape to cover the inside to avoid any of the light bleeding through the poster board.

Inside of the helm ( geto wiring rig)

You can see how far down the red plastic gel gose down and past the eye opeings.

Here is a shot of the red LED  held in place just above the eye opening.


Here is is lit up. I wanted to show how bright it is.


And with the cover back in place, you can not see the light from with in.


The white semi gloss poster board reflexts the light out through the eye opeing while sheilding your eyes from the light allowing you to see clearly. Of course you do not get full field of vision from the helmet.

  If you try and use a refletic serface like mirrored lenses you will have light coming back into your eyes blining you. I tried this way 1st.

 The reason I used a single LED and not two was for the "hot spot" effect. with one in pictures it looks as if Raven is staring right at you, with two it makes two hot spots and ruins the effect.
 Why I didn't use EL wire or something like that, I didn't use El wire because it makes for a harsh dividing line on the eye opeing, with the LED it holds the poster board back a few mm and allows the light to disperse gradually downward making for a more even effect across the whole eye.

The effect is much more subtle in person, camras tend to make it much more obvious.

Anyway. sorry to high jack your thread....but that's how I did it.

Oh, and I power the LED's with two button lithum watch batteries. 1 per LED, they last a long time.

All in all, about $10 total to make.


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