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Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Adarock on July 11, 2011, 04:36:00 AM
So my friend Austin and I have set out to make two sets of space marine armor. A Space Wolf for myself and a Chaos space marine for him. I have a back ground in pepakura making halo stuff but i thought for this scale it might be simpler to use foam. Can someone direct me to a tutor on making templates for foam armor or something of the like?
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Djinn on July 11, 2011, 05:07:00 AM
Look for Sinisters thread. (Big and blue and takes up space and stuff thread)
He uses un-assembled pep pieces as templates for foam armor with great effect. The quality of your suit using this method will come down to critical thinking ability and painting skills. Both of those skills can not be taught for free by members of this forum and will require you to research (also using critical thinking skills).
If you know how to scale a Halo suit you probably read the 405th thread with the calculator for scaling armor based on height that is there. Use that same calculator to get whatever height you want then scale your pieces in pep to that size. Use those half assembled templates to make foam versions of them. Seal and sand. Prime and paint. Use a closed cell foam (EVA foam or camp mats) and any parts you cannot use foam and pep for will require use of critical thinking to accomplish.

Good luck.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: ragnar blackmane on July 11, 2011, 05:37:00 AM
yes, more foam armor. check out the "ragnar is a ultramarine" thread as well.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: SINISTER on July 11, 2011, 09:12:00 AM
OoooH !!   [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />  My thread got a plug!!  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />   [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/14623/129/emo/0f352eae45b08d26760469319a4704f6.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='0f352eae45b08d26760469319a4704f6.gif' />
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kaiwanxiao on July 11, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
Nobody loves me.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kakxor on July 11, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
i do [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> ^^ well more like a bromanse ^^
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Adarock on July 11, 2011, 06:04:00 PM
lol
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kaiwanxiao on July 11, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: kakxor date=1310404980
i do [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> ^^ well more like a bromanse ^^
My Chemical Bromance?
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: SCHRAMB0 on July 11, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
(http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/60953-Shadow%20of%20Death/953/94/brohoof_display.jpg)
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Daeouse on July 11, 2011, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: kaiwanxiao date=1310408880
Quote from: kakxor date=1310404980
i do [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> ^^ well more like a bromanse ^^
My Chemical Bromance?
LOLz [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kaiwanxiao on July 11, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
I guess I should work faster/harder/more/ohbaby on finishing my suit. :-P So I can stand up and be counted!
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kakxor on July 11, 2011, 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: kaiwanxiao date=1310423280
Quote from: kakxor date=1310404980
i do [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> ^^ well more like a bromanse ^^
My Chemical Bromance?
allways XD haha ^^
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Daeouse on July 11, 2011, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: kaiwanxiao date=1310414400
I guess I should work faster/harder/more/ohbaby on finishing my suit. :-P So I can stand up and be counted!
 [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' />

 [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kaiwanxiao on July 11, 2011, 11:45:00 PM
I've actually got a question myself, for fibreglassers.

When I fibreglass my stuff, I pretty much bank on destroying a brush for every piece (two for the chest piece), at a bare minimum. By the time I'm done they're stones. I've tried turpentine and I've tried "mineral water" or whatever it is that smells like kerosene, to keep the brushes from getting as hard as a rock.

Kai needs a pro-tip. How do I preserve my brushes? Is there a way?
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Daeouse on July 12, 2011, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: kaiwanxiao date=1310427900
I've actually got a question myself, for fibreglassers.

When I fibreglass my stuff, I pretty much bank on destroying a brush for every piece (two for the chest piece), at a bare minimum. By the time I'm done they're stones. I've tried turpentine and I've tried "mineral water" or whatever it is that smells like kerosene, to keep the brushes from getting as hard as a rock.

Kai needs a pro-tip. How do I preserve my brushes? Is there a way?
Honestly? No.

Supposedly if you get the brush in the Mineral Spirits while it's still "wet" it can be preserved, but I've never tried. I just buy my brushes in bulk from The Engineer Guy (http://www.theengineerguy.com/cgi/commerce.cgi?display=home). It's much cheaper than buying from anywhere else. [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

I also feel that worrying about saving your brushes takes away from the real thing you should be worrying about: The armor. I keep my stress low by simply tossing out the used brushes after I've used them.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Adarock on July 12, 2011, 05:16:00 AM
So thought id do a quick update on the situation. Ive decided to go the full pep route and use thin peices of foam for any custom details i may choose to.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Djinn on July 12, 2011, 06:37:00 AM
Yeah.. Those cheap under a dollar brushes aren't called throw-away-brushes for no reason. I probably went through 20+ of the stupid things on my suit.
If you go the pep route you have to realize that when you are done with the pepping/resin part the work has more or less just began. Unless you have extremely high res models like some of the 405th iron man/halo stuff its really hard to get away with just using the pepped pieces without heavy modification using bondo or otherwise. Especially since SM armor is almost entirely rounded everywhere.
Pep does work though! Make sure to throw some pictures up when you start on it eh?

Title: got a couple questions
Post by: SINISTER on July 12, 2011, 06:41:00 AM
Good luck with the full pep build. Personally I don't envy you, but you've said that you've had experience building up a Halo spartan in this way, so you know what you're letting yourself in for.
Don't forget to post progress pics. Look forward to seeing how your build goes.  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

 [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/14623/129/emo/0f352eae45b08d26760469319a4704f6.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='0f352eae45b08d26760469319a4704f6.gif' />
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Adarock on July 12, 2011, 06:44:00 AM
will do guys, Oh djinn im going to be basing my frost axe off of yours but mine will be a little more customized.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: ragnar blackmane on July 12, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
yes get "chip brushes" from home depot or similar. they are like 60 cents for a bag of 6 or something.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Adarock on July 16, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
Allright guys im halfway done pepping my helmet so ill do some pics of it tonight but ill probably start a new thread for the progress one
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Tango89er on July 21, 2011, 01:29:00 AM
About cleaning brushes, acetone is the correct stuff for cleaning them, but can only be used while the resin is still wet.
That said, don't bother because the fumes you'll inhale from the acetone will destroy your lungs quicker than a Harlequin's Kiss and brushes really aren't worth it
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kaiwanxiao on August 05, 2011, 06:14:00 PM
Much thanks on the input, gentlemen. I have another question. [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

I'm working on my glove. I eschewed the popular hockey glove because a hockey glove finger won't fit in the trigger well of my paintball marker, so I am using a pair of work gloves whose fabric is a sort of stretchy sort of cloth. I'm using foam for my armour bits, and I am not sure of the best way to attach the foam. Should I use Gorilla Glue, or hot glue?
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: wookieegunner on August 05, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Neither.  You should use a flexible glue.  Glue this to that ( http://www.thistothat.com/ (http://www.thistothat.com/) ) recommends Barges for cloth to leather or cloth to rubber.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: Colin on August 06, 2011, 06:22:00 PM
I hot glued pieces of puzzle mat to my gloves. They aren't coming off. Ever.
Title: got a couple questions
Post by: kaiwanxiao on August 09, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
I went ahead and did two fingers with Gorilla Glue and two with hot glue. I figure that will provide me with a nice comparison. When I put the "back hand" piece on, I noticed that the superglue leaked through the fabric a bit. So after it dried, I went and stuck my hand in there and started applying superglue to the finger bits for the index and middle finger... I noticed that the superglue and foam created a lot of heat. Funny.