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Costuming => Space Marines => Topic started by: Haggard13 on September 29, 2013, 03:40:53 PM

Title: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on September 29, 2013, 03:40:53 PM
Hey all,

After being directed here by reading through Kol Badar's thread on the rpf i thought I'd share my attempt at an astartes pattern suit.

my build has been in the works for just over three weeks now and I'm definitely learning as i go, there are pics on my thread over at rpf under the same username and i shall attempt to post some here too (as soon as i figure out how).

The suit started life as a basic mk7 design but due to an unsuccessful resin attempt has had to be rebuilt into a mk4/mk7 hybrid, a small setback but a fortunate one as it now gives me the option of pre heresy legion schemes to tempt myself with on top of all post heresy schemes.

colour choice and weapon loadout haven't yet been decided but i keep coming back to the idea of Luna Wolves, Emperors Children or Imperial Fists so it may end up in me flipping a coin or two to decide.

As i mentioned earlier when i figure out how to post pics (or if some kind forum member could guide this newbie) i shall create a more detailed post

++Mark++





Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: MrInhumane on September 29, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
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Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on September 30, 2013, 02:38:52 PM
(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-dsc_1861.jpg-237506d1380481038)

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-mk4-9.jpg-236511d1380221588)

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-mk4-7.jpg-236509d1380221576)

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-mk4-5.jpg-236507d1380221563)

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-marine-12.jpg-230218d1378849997)

As promised, a selection of pics from my build. All of the pics were taken by my remembrancer with her phone so it looks like i may have to ask her to lower the resolution a little for the next set.

I may have to excuse myself for some of the facial expressions, working 12hrs and then coming home to stare at printed patterns may have started taking it's toll on me
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: rero_design on October 01, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
I think Space Wolves is the right chapter for you... ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on October 02, 2013, 01:11:03 PM
I had originally thought space wolves for the mk 7 suit  ;D ;D but it's taken me being signed off work for a few days with a particularly bad trapped nerve in my shoulder to be able to get a good cut and shave, plus it was becoming hard to judge how well my bionic would fit fighting with all that hair.

here are a few more pics of what i've been able to scratch together while semi paralysed these past couple of days

As for the pink helmet in one of the pics, pink wasn't exactly my first choice of colour but i can't really argue about free cardstock

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-dsc_1868.jpg-238386d1380732732)

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-dsc_1870.jpg-238387d1380732738)

(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/first-proper-attempt-costume-space-marine-dsc_1876.jpg-238388d1380732744)

The chainsword is far from done in it's current state as I'm pretty much learning from scratch when it comes to foam builds, The bionic is also a rough draft with some parts being templated out first and the rest being taken from the off cuts from the bolter and chainsword builds
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on October 07, 2013, 01:24:38 PM
After a good few goes with the pep route i realize that it may not be the best way to go for me, After reading some threads for foam suits i've decided to take that approach instead.

However, i would like to ask the opinion of the forum on one small matter.

Which scale, or more to the point, will i be able to use the 850 scale files. I stand around 5'6" - 5'7" on a good day and i'd like to know if anyone here is in the same position, i was using the 758 scale files for the peps but felt as though my head was always out of proportion to the torso, i know that i'll have to use some higher stilt bases for a near full size build but i still have still doubt in the back of my mind that i may just be wasting my time building something i can't wear.

Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated

Mark
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Sethusk on October 07, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
I'm 5'5" and am going with the 935 scale.  My stilts are right at 18" tall.  I'm in the stages of adjusting the stilts before I continue.  I will try to finish up the legs and body to get a better idea of the true scale, but nothing has popped up YET that screams I need to go smaller.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: ViolentDream on October 08, 2013, 12:12:48 AM
Hey there...I'm at 5'7.5" and I'm using  935 scale as well. You'll have more room for adjustments to fit into it but IT IS WEARABLE. You will just have to adjust to using stilts and some limits to mobility. Really depends if you want the full scale vs. full mobility / comfort of human scale. So it's a matter of objective.

After a good few goes with the pep route i realize that it may not be the best way to go for me, After reading some threads for foam suits i've decided to take that approach instead.

However, i would like to ask the opinion of the forum on one small matter.

Which scale, or more to the point, will i be able to use the 850 scale files. I stand around 5'6" - 5'7" on a good day and i'd like to know if anyone here is in the same position, i was using the 758 scale files for the peps but felt as though my head was always out of proportion to the torso, i know that i'll have to use some higher stilt bases for a near full size build but i still have still doubt in the back of my mind that i may just be wasting my time building something i can't wear.

Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated

Mark
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on October 08, 2013, 01:16:49 PM
Sethusk and ViolentDream,

thanks for the replies and feedback, I've decided to go for the speed and comfort route with the 850 scale for this suit but I'm definitely not ruling out doing a 935 scale sometime in the future (probably next suit in line although i doubt my missus will be too happy, I'm currently trying to convince her it would be a good idea for her to own a suit of SoB armor)

Thanks again for showing that it can be done regardless of height  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on October 10, 2013, 03:55:17 PM
My foam arrived on time an i eagerly set to tracing templates and cutting, the end result of which was this
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_1934_zps338b0593.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_1934_zps338b0593.jpg.html)

however, the process was not without its casualties
 (http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_1933_zps4d1ed861.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_1933_zps4d1ed861.jpg.html)

I realize now that maybe making the cuts in these parts probably wasn't the best of ideas ::)

another pic for scale comparison
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_1936_zps1c7bd6e3.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_1936_zps1c7bd6e3.jpg.html)

The pep boot is the 758 scale and the foamy is the 850, next up for the suit is the second boot and then a greave, At a rough guess i think i'll be looking at using 8" - 10" stilts dependant on where the knee lines up best for me to be able to keep mobility
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on October 11, 2013, 06:56:19 PM
Progress is well and truly being made at the minute with another boot finished along with a greave and knee, the second greave and knee are drawn up ready to be traced to the foam too, Quick question though, I'm using Rraijjar's A4 versions of pileruds files and I'm not sure whether the greaves are "handed" like the thighs, do i have to flip my template over or not for the right hand greave?

More pics have been added and I'll upload a few when i get more time to do so but for now here's a link to my bucket account, all pics are there for anyone interested.

http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/slideshow/

one thing i didn't plan on is the amount of EVA mat I'd be using, found a seller on Ebay who could supply 12 600x600 mats for 25.99, I'm going through those at quite a rate so it looks like I'll be needing more sooner than i thought  :D

Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Haggard13 on October 17, 2013, 01:42:13 PM
Time for a small progress update

The last of my first 12 foam mats is now gone and this is the product so far of all the cutting (both foam and fingers),

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2002_zpsdddddac6.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2002_zpsdddddac6.jpg.html)

i lost a mat due to getting the first attempt at a toe cap disastrously wrong so i had to forgo one of the shins for now, there is another knee plate and a belt completed too but they aren't shown on the photos.

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2008_zps84247101.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2008_zps84247101.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2009_zps399df3fc.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2009_zps399df3fc.jpg.html)

With both thighs and the cod in place, i can't help but think that the cod is too large around the waist so i may look into the same modification that Henrik performed on his blood angel if it continues to bother me.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++ new member
Post by: Rraijjar on October 17, 2013, 02:15:50 PM
Progress is well and truly being made at the minute with another boot finished along with a greave and knee, the second greave and knee are drawn up ready to be traced to the foam too, Quick question though, I'm using Rraijjar's A4 versions of pileruds files and I'm not sure whether the greaves are "handed" like the thighs, do i have to flip my template over or not for the right hand greave?

I just flipped it ;) no extra printing then

@ progress, looks great so far :)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 17, 2013, 03:29:46 PM
Thanks Rraijjar, and thanks again for the A4 files, they make the build feel a lot quicker with not having to keep changing all the paper settings every time i open pepakura
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Rraijjar on October 17, 2013, 04:02:08 PM
No problem ;) I did it because a lot of us done have a a3 printer i guess (including me) Also curious if you already have a chapter in mind, or do you go a DIY one?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 17, 2013, 04:14:42 PM
I'm torn between Imperial Fists and Blood Ravens. My original plan was to go for the mk 4 in fiberglass and choose a pre heresy legion scheme,  it may still happen yet as I'm trying to learn how to unfold/modify the pep files for foam while I await my next delivery of mats
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Ronan on October 17, 2013, 04:26:10 PM
I vote Blood Ravens
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Rraijjar on October 17, 2013, 06:04:32 PM
Well... I've partly made a fiberglass/resin black templar, but it became way to heavy to walk in. So I'm working on my new foam One. And it works a lot easier
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Scarcasm on October 18, 2013, 04:03:05 AM
Haggard

Nice build thus far fella.  For what it's worth you've Space Wolves written all over you  ;)

I found this seller on Ebay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-INTERLOCKING-EVA-SOFT-FOAM-EXERCISE-FLOOR-MATS-GYM-GARAGE-HOUSE-OFFICE-MAT-/200821078755?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Exercise_Fitness_Fitness_Accessories_ET&var=&hash=item2ec1de7ae3#ht_4042wt_1238 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-INTERLOCKING-EVA-SOFT-FOAM-EXERCISE-FLOOR-MATS-GYM-GARAGE-HOUSE-OFFICE-MAT-/200821078755?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Exercise_Fitness_Fitness_Accessories_ET&var=&hash=item2ec1de7ae3#ht_4042wt_1238)

16 mats (64 Sq Ft) for just shy of 26.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: prev on October 18, 2013, 04:44:43 AM
I'm torn between Imperial Fists and Blood Ravens. My original plan was to go for the mk 4 in fiberglass and choose a pre heresy legion scheme,  it may still happen yet as I'm trying to learn how to unfold/modify the pep files for foam while I await my next delivery of mats

Torn? Sounds like the Black Rage. I think the Death Company calls to you dude...
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 18, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
mk4 torso foam 2 (1).pdo (http://www.4shared.com/file/YFI6cXRu/mk4_torso_foam_2__1_.html)

Here is an attempt at the mk4 upper torso for foam, it's a multi part layout at the moment and there are a few bits i know need altering but my skills are almost nonexistent at this moment in time, If anyone wiser than I would care to take a look and let me know if I'm heading down the right path, that would be great

Haggard

Nice build thus far fella.  For what it's worth you've Space Wolves written all over you  ;)

I found this seller on Ebay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-INTERLOCKING-EVA-SOFT-FOAM-EXERCISE-FLOOR-MATS-GYM-GARAGE-HOUSE-OFFICE-MAT-/200821078755?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Exercise_Fitness_Fitness_Accessories_ET&var=&hash=item2ec1de7ae3#ht_4042wt_1238 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-INTERLOCKING-EVA-SOFT-FOAM-EXERCISE-FLOOR-MATS-GYM-GARAGE-HOUSE-OFFICE-MAT-/200821078755?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Exercise_Fitness_Fitness_Accessories_ET&var=&hash=item2ec1de7ae3#ht_4042wt_1238)

16 mats (64 Sq Ft) for just shy of 26.


Thanks man, I'm starting to lean towards adding the Wolves to my list of possible chapters (possibly because of the not having to shave after being complained at by the missus part  ;D),
good find on the mats too, I'll be looking into that link for my next delivery

 
I'm torn between Imperial Fists and Blood Ravens. My original plan was to go for the mk 4 in fiberglass and choose a pre heresy legion scheme,  it may still happen yet as I'm trying to learn how to unfold/modify the pep files for foam while I await my next delivery of mats

Torn? Sounds like the Black Rage. I think the Death Company calls to you dude...

Death Company does indeed sound very tempting too, i may have to put some research in this weekend

I vote Blood Ravens

Blood Ravens are the chapter my mind always seems to come back to, plus it'll fit the idea i had of a helmeted "Blood Magpie" running into the local GW, grabbing a box of marines and screaming "for the Emperor" before running back out the shop, i don't think Dave would mind........ much 

Edit: wrong link inserted

Edit 2: photo of a little something else I've got in the works, slight modifications to the nose plate for shineys mk4 helmet, slightly elongated with a smaller snout to match the GW model

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/helmetmod_zps44c5c7bf.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/helmetmod_zps44c5c7bf.jpg.html)

Edit: new link attached for torso
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: prev on October 22, 2013, 05:42:33 AM
Are you Death Company yet dude?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 23, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
I feel like I'm slowly getting there at times  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on October 23, 2013, 02:12:08 PM
I feel like I'm slowly getting there at times  ;D

Say, every time you look up to realize the last 5" of foam you cut was on the wrong angle? haha 8)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 23, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
I feel like I'm slowly getting there at times  ;D

Say, every time you look up to realize the last 5" of foam you cut was on the wrong angle? haha 8)

Exactly, or trying to figure out the rigging for the belt and leg connections, over and over and over.......
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 30, 2013, 02:47:09 PM
Small update;

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2040_zps9d8932c7.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2040_zps9d8932c7.jpg.html)

i can just about stand on my toes here so i think the scaling is definitely right for a large scale suit

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2036_zpscdb9d4a9.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2036_zpscdb9d4a9.jpg.html)

A little soldering iron detailing to pass the time spent waiting for more foam money

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2049_zpsa58b543c.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2049_zpsa58b543c.jpg.html)

Hinged the boots, time will tell as to whether this gets altered or modified as I'm trying to get it so the toe cap hinges while walking to give it a more natural look rather than walking with flat feet

Now that my trip to Scotland for my son's birthday has passed i can dedicate some time and money towards my suit again,

just a few pics added this time as a little progress update,

Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on October 30, 2013, 03:22:53 PM
Now that my trip to Scotland for my son's birthday has passed i can dedicate some time and money towards my suit again,

I'd love to visit Scotland, and (hopefully) will some day!  If nothing else, my ancestors demand I get a kilt of the ancestral tartan.....and then wear it the rest of my freaking life, because kilts are awesome.  8)

As for the progress issue...if it makes you feel any better, grad school has my progress level at: "Well, one shoulder pep file unfolded, cut, unglued, and in a heap on my work table."  :'(

BUT ENOUGH OF THIS! WE BOTH SHALL CARRY ON! TO ADMIT DEFEAT IS TO BLASPHEME AGAINST THE EMPEROR!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: CLOTHAR on October 30, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Looking nice!  I like you idea to hinge the feet.  It will give a nice effect in the end.  My boots are hinged too, but I did mine to human scale, so my feet are actually in the boots.  The hinges make walking way easier.  Hopefully that will be true with lifts too.

Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Rraijjar on October 31, 2013, 02:32:02 AM
i love what you did there so far ;) Not sure if you have found something yet for the backpack... i made those files to a a4 sized PDF now
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 01, 2013, 06:06:55 PM
Looking nice!  I like you idea to hinge the feet.  It will give a nice effect in the end.  My boots are hinged too, but I did mine to human scale, so my feet are actually in the boots.  The hinges make walking way easier.  Hopefully that will be true with lifts too.

I've been reading a couple of threads where people have started with a hinged toe but made the boot solid due to the toe cap sticking in place and upsetting the overall balance of the foot, i think with a little creative use of some elastic and a counterweight in the cap i can overcome this problem

i love what you did there so far ;) Not sure if you have found something yet for the backpack... i made those files to a a4 sized PDF now

If all goes well I'm looking at building Chwbcc's jump pack so i can join Render in the assault marine class (only so i can build the two handed thunder hammer and stomp around like a total badass), I'll be making a backpack too i guess so i have some options if I feel like something different  ;D

Now that my trip to Scotland for my son's birthday has passed i can dedicate some time and money towards my suit again,

I'd love to visit Scotland, and (hopefully) will some day!  If nothing else, my ancestors demand I get a kilt of the ancestral tartan.....and then wear it the rest of my freaking life, because kilts are awesome.  8)

As for the progress issue...if it makes you feel any better, grad school has my progress level at: "Well, one shoulder pep file unfolded, cut, unglued, and in a heap on my work table."  :'(

BUT ENOUGH OF THIS! WE BOTH SHALL CARRY ON! TO ADMIT DEFEAT IS TO BLASPHEME AGAINST THE EMPEROR!

Scotland is a really nice place and just seems to get better the further north you go, I was near Stirling, Close to some stunning views especially in the morning as the sun is rising over the hills,

As for the builds, we forge because we wish to, Where doubt creeps in, Heresy follows so we strive to keep building until our work is complete. The Emperor does indeed guide our hands in this most noble of tasks.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 01, 2013, 06:18:51 PM
As for the builds, we forge because we wish to, Where doubt creeps in, Heresy follows so we strive to keep building until our work is complete. The Emperor does indeed guide our hands in this most noble of tasks.

Indeed, Brother! To admit defeat is to blaspheme against the Emperor!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 04, 2013, 03:19:07 PM
been playing with the scheme designer on bolter and chainsword to see if i could make up my mind on which chapter I'll be representing, still can't decide  :(

although this one stood out for me, Scythes of the Emperor

(http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=FFDD00&bpj=000000&bp=FFDD00&bpc=FFDD00&hdt=000000&hdm=000000&hdl=000000&ey=14AD00&er=000000&pi=949494&nk=FFDD00&ch=FFDD00&eg=FFDD00&sk=FFDD00&abs=FFDD00&bt=FFDD00&cod=FFDD00&ull=000000&lk=000000&lll=000000&lft=000000&url=000000&rk=000000&lrl=000000&rft=000000&slt=000000&sli=000000&srt=000000&sri=000000&ula=000000&lel=000000&lla=000000&lw=000000&lh=000000&ura=000000&rel=000000&rla=000000&rw=000000&rh=000000&bg=FFFFFF&rb=000000&gr=000000&wg=true&hsk=true&aq=true&dm1=true&jmp=FFDD00&jmph=777799&loin=FFF7B3&ai=FFDD00&slips=CC0000&rkg7=FFDD00&bpr=000000&cs=FFDD00&frag=00AA00&krk=CC0000&/spacemarine.jpg)
 
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 04, 2013, 03:27:44 PM
Not a bad choice...and I'm pretty sure you'd win the title of "Representing Most Distant Founding" ;)  (SotE are 25th founding of the Ultramarines).  They have a similar backstory to the Crimson Fists, definitely your thing if you're into the "dire struggle" pathos.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 04, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
couple of small updates,

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2105_zpsffd16dd6.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2105_zpsffd16dd6.jpg.html)

testing the mk4 torso foam conversion I'm currently slaving away with for rough size.

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2109_zpsbe81aedc.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2109_zpsbe81aedc.jpg.html)

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 04, 2013, 06:22:58 PM
Looking good, man! I must admit - I've been avoiding the monstrosity that is the chestplate (finished the elbow, currently working on the bicep).   It's hard to tell from the pic, so it may not be accurate, but it does look like the chest is ever so slightly smaller in scale than the abdomen / waist portion.  I'm not familiar with how the foam builds work, though.  Also, have you decided which kind of chestplate you are doing?  Many of them are effectively the same shape (just slight variances in ornamentation and what-not), but some, such as the Errant Pattern would require additional work around the neck.

Also, since I clearly haven't asked enough questions (  ;D ) how are you going to be putting this suit on?  Will it be something you slide over your head and put your arms through, or will it be folded over and buckled, like some kind of vest?

Exciting to see the progress, as always  8)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: CLOTHAR on November 04, 2013, 07:45:34 PM
It is hard to judge the size in pictures.  My only two cents would be that a bigger chest will be more imposing, but a smaller chest will allow better mobility. 
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Rraijjar on November 05, 2013, 01:40:47 AM
Looks great so far over there mate ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 05, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Looking good, man! I must admit - I've been avoiding the monstrosity that is the chestplate (finished the elbow, currently working on the bicep).   It's hard to tell from the pic, so it may not be accurate, but it does look like the chest is ever so slightly smaller in scale than the abdomen / waist portion.  I'm not familiar with how the foam builds work, though.  Also, have you decided which kind of chestplate you are doing?  Many of them are effectively the same shape (just slight variances in ornamentation and what-not), but some, such as the Errant Pattern would require additional work around the neck.

Also, since I clearly haven't asked enough questions (  ;D ) how are you going to be putting this suit on?  Will it be something you slide over your head and put your arms through, or will it be folded over and buckled, like some kind of vest?

Exciting to see the progress, as always  8)

i found that to be the case when assembling the pep mk4, both chests were scaled the same but the mk4 felt considerably smaller when worn.

I've decided to carry on with a mk7 suit with jump pack for my first build, turns out my foam conversion still needs a little work to align some faces i overlooked, a mk4 suit is definitely on the cards though, Luna Wolves (4th?) captain Loken/Cerberus suit with plenty of battle damage and a rough Sons Of Horus to Luna Wolves repaint to add to the look. I blame the heresy books for this idea

It is hard to judge the size in pictures.  My only two cents would be that a bigger chest will be more imposing, but a smaller chest will allow better mobility. 

I still need to work on the foam mods for the mk4 abs section too as they differ to the mk7, they are about 1-2" taller front and back with two side plates attached to the chest part, if i can find a balance between size/mobility i think i may just be onto a winner  :D

Looks great so far over there mate ;D

Cheers man, as always, kind words are always appreciated, Oh and i may be asking for the backpack file sometime soon, I've decided to go for a standard backpack first so i can at least have a complete suit
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 05, 2013, 03:23:23 PM
Looking good, man! I must admit - I've been avoiding the monstrosity that is the chestplate (finished the elbow, currently working on the bicep).   It's hard to tell from the pic, so it may not be accurate, but it does look like the chest is ever so slightly smaller in scale than the abdomen / waist portion.  I'm not familiar with how the foam builds work, though.  Also, have you decided which kind of chestplate you are doing?  Many of them are effectively the same shape (just slight variances in ornamentation and what-not), but some, such as the Errant Pattern would require additional work around the neck.

Also, since I clearly haven't asked enough questions (  ;D ) how are you going to be putting this suit on?  Will it be something you slide over your head and put your arms through, or will it be folded over and buckled, like some kind of vest?

Exciting to see the progress, as always  8)

i found that to be the case when assembling the pep mk4, both chests were scaled the same but the mk4 felt considerably smaller when worn.

I've decided to carry on with a mk7 suit with jump pack for my first build, turns out my foam conversion still needs a little work to align some faces i overlooked, a mk4 suit is definitely on the cards though, Luna Wolves (4th?) captain Loken/Cerberus suit with plenty of battle damage and a rough Sons Of Horus to Luna Wolves repaint to add to the look. I blame the heresy books for this idea

L-luna Wolves?  Have we lost you to the Heresy, Brother?!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 05, 2013, 03:31:44 PM
The last of the loyalists the traitor legions couldn't purge, i may even be tempted to add a grey knight suit to the list of things to do to chart Loken's path.

++side note++

Where would a thread dedicated to a pre heresy marine belong? Here or on another part of the board? 
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Rraijjar on November 05, 2013, 03:32:51 PM
Cheers man, as always, kind words are always appreciated, Oh and i may be asking for the backpack file sometime soon, I've decided to go for a standard backpack first so i can at least have a complete suit

Sure thing, i've emailed them already, but the bigger ball files arent in it yet (havent got time for that one yet)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 05, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
The last of the loyalists the traitor legions couldn't purge, i may even be tempted to add a grey knight suit to the list of things to do to chart Loken's path.

++side note++

Where would a thread dedicated to a pre heresy marine belong? Here or on another part of the board?

Whew!  Thought we lost you!

Pre-heresy would still be here, so far as I am concerned....they're still space marines.  And besides, if you're going the 'resisted the corruption' route, your build isn't really so much different than the Space Wolves 13th Company lore, and they're firmly "Space Marine".   :D  Could be an interesting twist?  Would you make the guy a 'lone survivor', or more of a Blood Ravens route?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 05, 2013, 03:59:14 PM
Well, Loken was supposedly the only survivor of the Istvaan dropsite massacre, he subsequently lost his mind roaming the planet fighting as a one man army and was later recovered by Nathaniel Garro and restored to sanity, they then supposedly went on to form the Grey Knights with a few other select loyalists.

I think it's the portrayal of him being the ultimate badass at the time that's got me wanting to go for Luna Wolves, He took on Abaddon in terminator armour in only a suit of mk4 himself and almost bested him in combat (damn Dies Irae with a cheap shot :) ). That alone screams at me to do a Loken suit
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 05, 2013, 04:47:43 PM
Cheers man, as always, kind words are always appreciated, Oh and i may be asking for the backpack file sometime soon, I've decided to go for a standard backpack first so i can at least have a complete suit

Sure thing, i've emailed them already, but the bigger ball files arent in it yet (havent got time for that one yet)

thank you sir, as for the balls, I've been looking at the large size styrene balls, pretty cheap for a handful in case any mistakes are made
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 05, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
Well, Loken was supposedly the only survivor of the Istvaan dropsite massacre, he subsequently lost his mind roaming the planet fighting as a one man army and was later recovered by Nathaniel Garro and restored to sanity, they then supposedly went on to form the Grey Knights with a few other select loyalists.

I think it's the portrayal of him being the ultimate badass at the time that's got me wanting to go for Luna Wolves, He took on Abaddon in terminator armour in only a suit of mk4 himself and almost bested him in combat (damn Dies Irae with a cheap shot :) ). That alone screams at me to do a Loken suit

Hehe, completely understandable :)  I feel the same way about the Iron Cage incident....marching into obvious traps just to fight their way out again.  Imperial Fists: It's not about victory, its about sending a message.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: cilegray on November 05, 2013, 05:16:32 PM
Cheers man, as always, kind words are always appreciated, Oh and i may be asking for the backpack file sometime soon, I've decided to go for a standard backpack first so i can at least have a complete suit

Sure thing, i've emailed them already, but the bigger ball files arent in it yet (havent got time for that one yet)

thank you sir, as for the balls, I've been looking at the large size styrene balls, pretty cheap for a handful in case any mistakes are made

Locally, 8inch styrene balls were 24.99$ EACH! You can head on over to my thread if you want to know how I ended up dealing with the balls. IMHO it was much easier to make them using the 'spider' pattern I modified from Henrik's files...
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 05, 2013, 05:51:44 PM

Locally, 8inch styrene balls were 24.99$ EACH! You can head on over to my thread if you want to know how I ended up dealing with the balls. IMHO it was much easier to make them using the 'spider' pattern I modified from Henrik's files...

I'll have a look at your build, my mind was still on the ones i was going to use for my pep suit, just checked the link again and they only have stock suitable for the 750 scale backpack
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: KnoxyMcKnox on November 07, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
Just had a read through the thread, and I have to say your build is looking really good so far man! Keep up the good work! :D

Are you doing a full mk7, or will you be using elements of the mk 4, like the helmet?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 08, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
Thanks man, just on with the chest section now and having some slight problems joining the back to the collar, I'm having to cut the part that goes over the back of the shoulders at an angle so i can get the collar to line up properly (kinda wish these things had instructions for assembly ;D)

As for which suit, It'll be the full Mk7 for now which will evolve into an assault marine complete with jump pack.

With regards to the Mk4, I'm having a few problems with the unfolds at the minute, rogue edges and all that, but it's going to likely be my second personal project (after I've built a suit for my son that is)

Well i was going to add a couple of recent pics but my phone is being decidedly heretical this evening, i shall submit it to the inquisition and try again later
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 09, 2013, 10:54:08 AM
PHOTOS!!!!!!!!

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2168_zps7bce73cf.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2168_zps7bce73cf.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2163_zps60956819.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2163_zps60956819.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2165_zps167380e7.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2165_zps167380e7.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2166_zps05050824.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2166_zps05050824.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2171_zps3471c50d.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2171_zps3471c50d.jpg.html)

few finishing touches to the main body of the chest to do and then either the shoulders or arms will be being started, haven't decided which yet but the iconic looking shoulders are the ones i think will win this debate.

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2128_zps2fb1ba03.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2128_zps2fb1ba03.jpg.html)

and a bonus pic of me trying to smite a heretic (the small furry gets into everything kind)  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 09, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2128_zps2fb1ba03.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2128_zps2fb1ba03.jpg.html)

and a bonus pic of me trying to smite a heretic (the small furry gets into everything kind)  ;D

Haha! A pic to match your signature  8)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 09, 2013, 02:23:37 PM
This pic always makes me want to make some "power feet" and sign up for the angry marines for some reason, The furry little nurgling however has other ideas as he keeps running off with bits of foam
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 09, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
yet another update,

more progress made today = more pictures

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2182_zps541e4b9c.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2182_zps541e4b9c.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2186_zps8f9af3c8.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2186_zps8f9af3c8.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2188_zpsffceaebb.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2188_zpsffceaebb.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2190_zpsc2a618f3.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2190_zpsc2a618f3.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2193_zps8b41cba8.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2193_zps8b41cba8.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2194_zps80bb932f.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2194_zps80bb932f.jpg.html)

i haven't got round to sorting out my stilts yet hence the midget in a suit look  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on November 09, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
Still looks damn good!  And at least the Nurgling appears to have vanished ;)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 09, 2013, 06:40:36 PM
I wish  ;D

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2026_zps37dbe82f.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2026_zps37dbe82f.jpg.html)

Found him ::)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on November 26, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
Update Time = Picture time + bonus video

While being cooped up with broken fingers I've been itching to get back to work on my suit (although my missus may be disappointed as she's taken to playing borderlands 2 co-op with me while I've been out of commission). I've been concentrating the last few days on creating a set of temporary lifts so that i can line up the rest of the suit,

here are the results

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2224_zps12ba1c1b.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2224_zps12ba1c1b.jpg.html)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2225_zps8d355176.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2225_zps8d355176.jpg.html)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2234_zps67c2630e.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2234_zps67c2630e.jpg.html)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2242_zpsdc75d842.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2242_zpsdc75d842.jpg.html)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2240_zps05795983.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2240_zps05795983.jpg.html)

These are made from recycled cat scratching posts with a light wooden frame around the cardboard tube for extra support, the end result is quite sturdy and stable even without the calf support

http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/MOV_2246_zps29b7af1c.mp4.html

Here is said video of my first attempt at walking in said platforms  :D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Rraijjar on November 27, 2013, 01:54:37 AM
Loooking good so far :) those feet are looking very light weight
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Shadowwolf on November 27, 2013, 11:10:24 AM
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2128_zps2fb1ba03.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2128_zps2fb1ba03.jpg.html)

and a bonus pic of me trying to smite a heretic (the small furry gets into everything kind)  ;D

I see your biggest fan is observing your progress closely!  ::)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on January 24, 2014, 05:28:04 PM


I see your biggest fan is observing your progress closely!  ::)
[/quote]

hey guys,

sorry for the delay in replying, been going through a slump recently, every time i sit down to do some more suit work something seems to rear it's ugly head.

Shadowwolf, my biggest fan has been there through all the highs and lows of this project, some nights i've even welcomed his input, it's like a breath of fresh air when things start to heat up  ;D ::)

Loooking good so far :) those feet are looking very light weight

they are very light at the minute, i still have to fix the strapping to them yet but that shouldn't add much weight as it's only going to be velcro strips. They work surprisingly well too considering they have no calf support, i had to take them off because i couldn't really move freely with a solid frame pressing against my leg, made walking very "wooden" and awkward.

i have a few more pics to add but i'll have to transfer them from my phone first
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on January 26, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
as promised, more pics

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2258_zps2dd02c9b.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2258_zps2dd02c9b.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2676_zps4ywyjmre.JPG) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2676_zps4ywyjmre.JPG.html)
had to make a new bolt pistol as my other suffered heretic cat damage

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2682_zpsehmprrj1.JPG) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2682_zpsehmprrj1.JPG.html)
Fleshed out the shoulders with some detailing and reinforcing

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2683_zpsuke0zank.JPG) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2683_zpsuke0zank.JPG.html)
in position with the torso (which still needs reinforcing)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2662_zpsfpsqkh9u.JPG) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_2662_zpsfpsqkh9u.JPG.html)
testing with the arm (elbow part needs trimming on the ends to get rid of the sticking out effect)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on January 26, 2014, 06:48:34 PM
Hell of a great start bro. Can't wait to see this build fleshed out
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on January 29, 2014, 05:57:32 PM
Thanks Lupus, to be honest i nearly let this project slide, after having numerous problems trying to rig out the suit to be somewhat comfortable when worn i was ready to throw in the towel. Luckily i decided against that idea and sat down with a shoulder and some foam strips and eased myself back into finishing the thing  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on January 30, 2014, 01:39:40 AM
Glad to see you worked through the frustration Haggard. The amount of work you have done so far would be such a loss I feel. Probably taking a brake from the project and coming back to it will give you the motivation to see it through to the end. I'm curious how long you have been working on it so far? I have 3 suits I'm in beginning stages of starting so I have learned a lot from builds like yours. Keep at it bro and cant wait to see how this comes along.  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on January 30, 2014, 02:11:11 PM
i started in September last year with a 758 scaled pep suit which had to be redone countless times and then made the transition to foam mid October, I'm not entirely sure how long I've been working on the suit itself as I've had a few family commitments since i started but i definitely prefer the foam suit as it can be knocked over and manhandled without fear of damage.

It's good to hear that my build is helping out others even though i am relatively new to this myself, any questions about any part of building a suit just feel free to ask, If I can help out in any way I'll gladly give and personal advice  :D

On another note I've finally decided on Chapter colours......... Imperial Fists it is, It's been the one chapter that has been present throughout the course of my build and the one i always keep coming back to, Plus it'll stand out quite well and the first ever Wigan ComiCon  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on January 30, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
Glad you got that fire back in you   ;D I actually did have a question for you. Do you have a pic of your stilt set up or maybe can give some insight on how you did it? I have been wanting to go a mix of mdf and foam. I see people doing the pvc stilts but I'm not sure if that's the comfortable way for me to go. Thanks for the help Haggard and keep up that awesome work bro
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Haggard13 on January 30, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
Unfortunately i didn't take any pics of my stilts during building them but they are pretty simple in construction, i'm running an extremely tight budget due to me and my better half getting married in July so i had to make do with what i could scrape together, the stilts were an all or nothing build which turned out ok.

here is a quick rough diagram of how they were put together

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/stiltdiagram_zpsa05178c4.png) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/stiltdiagram_zpsa05178c4.png.html)

(that should say UK weather in the bottom right hand side  ::))

Basically any cardboard type packing tube will do as long as the walls of the tube are at least 5-6mm thick, they do a great job carrying weight, the stripwood supports are there just to take out any sideways flex in the tubes which are just clamped between the top and base plates

hope this makes sense ;D


++Edit++ i haven't attached any kind of strapping to the stilt yet but it's on my list of things to do this weekend if all goes as planned
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on January 30, 2014, 06:13:16 PM
Haggard that's exactly what I needed thanks a bunch. That couldn't have been any simpler for me lol. Big congrats on you and your lady. I know exactly what you're talking about with a budget being tight (trying for a baby right now  ;D) Keep up the great work bro
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Ronan on January 31, 2014, 11:45:22 AM
Yep kids tend to bog down projects, the only time i get to work on them is when everyone is in bed.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Chapter Unknown]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on February 01, 2014, 04:32:27 AM
Yep kids tend to bog down projects, the only time i get to work on them is when everyone is in bed.

Grad. School can do it, too.  It's super effective  :o
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hegard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 02, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
Ok, So here's what I'm aiming for.......

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Imperialfistsargeanttactical_zps79a44f0c.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Imperialfistsargeanttactical_zps79a44f0c.jpg.html)

building up on that to end up here...

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Imperialfistsergeantassaultvariant_zpsfb2f7807.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Imperialfistsergeantassaultvariant_zpsfb2f7807.jpg.html)

Only difference is the helmet, I'm not going to be using one but i do have a contact for someone who does prosthetic make up who i shall be asking to adorn my face with a rather large battle scar. Hopefully the scar combined with a prosthetic/bionic look contact lens will be enough to make up for the lack of helmet  :)



Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hegard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on February 02, 2014, 04:31:51 PM
I like it :)  But, you know, I'm biased  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hegard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on February 02, 2014, 05:07:19 PM
Solid look definitely liking it a lot. If your going no helmet than a nice battle scar/bionic eye will make up for that no problem. Just be careful with the prosthetic with what adhesive you will be using. Since you will be most likely sweating in that suit you don't want it to come loose on your face. I'm sure your friend will know what to do though. Can't wait to see it done up!!  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hegard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Rahnshen on February 02, 2014, 08:40:35 PM
you could get a few service studs as well if your going for a helmetless marine
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131025185616/warhammer40k/images/8/8c/Service_Studs_variants.jpg)
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/DarthParametric/SM_Titus_Head.jpg)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hegard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on February 02, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
He said battle scars not love pats  ;) ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 03, 2014, 01:33:02 PM
you could get a few service studs as well if your going for a helmetless marine
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131025185616/warhammer40k/images/8/8c/Service_Studs_variants.jpg)
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/DarthParametric/SM_Titus_Head.jpg)

I thought ahead on that one, it was one of my original plans. I picked up a handful of brass look, domed plastic buttons which are about 12mm in size for less than 1 from a sewing stall at my local market, I'm currently deciding whether to try and inscribe some sort of design into them, possibly the fists logo or an aquila  :D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 03, 2014, 06:50:07 PM
New Video.....

http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Videos/MOV_2839_zps911ad553.mp4.html

And some more photos now i have the lower half rigged up

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2831_zpsffc627cf.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2831_zpsffc627cf.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2837_zps5b464272.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2837_zps5b464272.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2842_zps32d7b948.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2842_zps32d7b948.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2859_zpsc44fcf80.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2859_zpsc44fcf80.jpg.html)
(I was trying to find my lighter....Honestly....I wasn't scratching my butt ::))
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: KnoxyMcKnox on February 03, 2014, 07:07:15 PM
Looks great man! Though it looks like you could do with widening the arm holes a little bit! :P
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: SickSick6 on February 03, 2014, 08:28:37 PM
I thought ahead on that one, it was one of my original plans. I picked up a handful of brass look, domed plastic buttons which are about 12mm in size for less than 1 from a sewing stall at my local market, I'm currently deciding whether to try and inscribe some sort of design into them, possibly the fists logo or an aquila  :D

Careful how you adhere them. I glued mine to the fuzzy side of velcro tabs & used the sticky side to stick the on but they fell off due to sweat like 10 min into the con :/
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 04, 2014, 01:26:26 PM
Looks great man! Though it looks like you could do with widening the arm holes a little bit! :P

I was thinking the same, when i get the shoulders rigged I'm going to see if i can trim the inside of the bicep and/or the side of the torso just to give me a little more movement.

I thought ahead on that one, it was one of my original plans. I picked up a handful of brass look, domed plastic buttons which are about 12mm in size for less than 1 from a sewing stall at my local market, I'm currently deciding whether to try and inscribe some sort of design into them, possibly the fists logo or an aquila  :D

Careful how you adhere them. I glued mine to the fuzzy side of velcro tabs & used the sticky side to stick the on but they fell off due to sweat like 10 min into the con :/

I was thinking surgical superglue or superglue in general, they should stay put and with a bit of white spirit, should be easy to remove ( I hope  ;D )
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on February 04, 2014, 10:25:55 PM
I was thinking surgical superglue or superglue in general, they should stay put and with a bit of white spirit, should be easy to remove ( I hope  ;D )

Such things are nothing in comparison to the Pain Glove!  8)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: cilegray on February 05, 2014, 01:55:43 AM
I've used the ol superglue as a quickfix for small cuts... works wonders and prevents infections, etc. Model making stores should sell a specialty product specifically for dissolving cyanoacrylate. Do some tests first with some of that, as superglue will take skin with it when you manage to get it off.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 05, 2014, 06:03:11 PM
just a quick update today guys,

got my shoulders and arms rigged out (for testing purposes  ::) ), looks like I'm suffering a case of T-Rex syndrome so next job is to raise the shoulders/torso and fit a floating bolt to act as a swivel point for the shoulders so they aren't flapping about uncontrollably

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2915_zpsde96dadc.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2915_zpsde96dadc.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2910_zps31437cfb.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2910_zps31437cfb.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_2907_zps6ede5097.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_2907_zps6ede5097.jpg.html)

And another bonus Video

http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/MOV_2912_zpse7796fff.mp4.html
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on February 05, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Hell yeah! ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: KnoxyMcKnox on February 05, 2014, 08:36:11 PM
Oh nice! Looking good!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on February 05, 2014, 08:51:35 PM
This is coming out so bad ass keep at it bro!!!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 11, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
Been adding a little detailing to my suit before i seal all the seams

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140211_200431_zpsxtzhyway.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/20140211_200431_zpsxtzhyway.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140211_200711_zpsf2j7rv18.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/20140211_200711_zpsf2j7rv18.jpg.html)

decided to add a split gorget to help hide any faults i may encounter with the neck seal with being helmetless and all,

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140211_204333_zpsv2ghblwa.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/20140211_204333_zpsv2ghblwa.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140211_204421_zpskai8i7sa.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/20140211_204421_zpskai8i7sa.jpg.html)

And SERVICE STUDS!!!! (although i think they may now be stuck there for the next few days  ::) too much glue  ;D)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on February 11, 2014, 06:51:39 PM
The Gorget looks sick and those studs are spot on.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: SickSick6 on February 11, 2014, 08:09:03 PM
What glue did you use? I used adhesive & mine fell off :(
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Rahnshen on February 12, 2014, 01:58:27 AM
hope you dont mind if i take some inspiration from that colar. although i believe mine will be a bit more sloped like a talons... now just to figure out how to fit a corvus helm in there. man i need to start my build to many ideas :3
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 12, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
What glue did you use? I used adhesive & mine fell off :(

In the end I used cheap superglue (the kind where you can get something like 10 bottles for 1/$1) it kept them on quite secure even when running through a range of facial expressions, taking them off wasn't too bad either, With it being cheap glue they came off by sliding my nail under them and gently lifting, No skin removed in the process and the red dot they left disappeared after about an hour,

In total i had them on for around four hours

hope you dont mind if i take some inspiration from that colar. although i believe mine will be a bit more sloped like a talons... now just to figure out how to fit a corvus helm in there. man i need to start my build to many ideas :3

Not at all good sir, Makes me glad to know i can provide inspiration for others building suits  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Rahnshen on February 13, 2014, 09:27:04 AM
So where did you find your foam. I've been trying to find it like that so i can price it. and how much did you use?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 14, 2014, 11:52:26 AM
I bought the majority of my foam from a bulk supplier on ebay, my first order was for 8 tiles and my second was for 24, Now my build is nearly complete, I have used all of the foam i had purchased

It may be worth keeping in mind that I'm building an 850 scaled suit. The 935 scaled suits seem to use around the 40 - 45 foam tiles mark,
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 14, 2014, 12:01:08 PM
Ok guys, I've been looking into some prosthetics kits seeing as I'll be without a helmet on my first public outing,

here are the candidates so far

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/cutsettn_zpsdpu6l6y5.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/cutsettn_zpsdpu6l6y5.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/613857066_o_zpstpjcffl1.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/613857066_o_zpstpjcffl1.jpg.html)

these are just basic scars which I'll be looking at using for battle scarring,.........

However, I did find this........

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/m18qTAsum3kCdYLOMq2BVaQ_zpsctmqvfj2.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/m18qTAsum3kCdYLOMq2BVaQ_zpsctmqvfj2.jpg.html)

PLASMA BURNS/BIO SCARS!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very tempted to go for this option
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Rahnshen on February 14, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
would you be making a bloody scar or a healed one?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Ronan on February 14, 2014, 01:21:45 PM
Are you looking to do a scar or wound?  Those look more like wounds.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 14, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
i was thinking healed, possibly with some staples for a little extra detail with the scars, The burn i think would be good for the Chaos builds,

Ronan, i think with a little extra make up it'd would be possible to mute the blood colour and make them look like they were from a previous campaign

++EDIT++ They cost around 10 each so if they don't work out it's still cheaper than paying for a full fx kit
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Amish Trooper on February 14, 2014, 01:31:58 PM
I would buy a bottle of liquid latex and just make your own scars. It's simple and there areva lot of tuts on YouTube.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Caramel on February 14, 2014, 02:21:37 PM
It may be worth keeping in mind that I'm building an 850 scaled suit. The 935 scaled suits seem to use around the 40 - 45 foam tiles mark,

Quick question, how exactly was 935 chosen as a scale? I had been using something a little bit larger as the scale in things I unfolded, because it was 1:1 with the size that they were in the game/export.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 14, 2014, 02:32:46 PM
i think the 935 came about as a result of Henricks build as the original files were scaled 850 to suit anyone around the 6ft height range without lifts

I may be wrong but i think he was the first to add the lifts and aim for that extra few inches,

I'm only using them as they are a better fit for me in the terms of arm length etc, I'm only 5'7" so if i went any bigger I would have trouble wearing the suit comfortably, my lifts add another foot in height to my suit which brings total height to around 6'9"- 10" with the backpack attached, not far off the revised codex height
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Caramel on February 14, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
I guess that makes some sense, then. I just quickly compared all of the scales in Blender, and the SM game export ones are about 7'6" total, with 935 being a bit over 7", and 850 being under 6'5". Reading up on it, it seems like they're 7ft tall without any armour on, with slight variation between them.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: cilegray on February 14, 2014, 05:38:46 PM
Simple. Standard sized builds were in 850. Henrik wanted it bigger; so he made it 10% bigger. 850 + 85 = 935.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Grove.of.Dreams on February 14, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
My own build is 930...so far it's playing out to be large-but-"wearable" for me (at about 6'2" without the suit) as opposed to the slightly puppet-ized suits by Thorssoli.

As for the facial stuff...no interest in cybernetics?  All space marines get roughed up eventually of course, but the Imperial Fists are most noteworthy for their skill and aptitude for siege warfare.  There are scars from the ritualized duels they engage in, but those are mostly body injuries rather than cranio-facial.  Bionics might be a workable option...maybe even something like the vox-implant you see on the sergeant in the first Dawn of War intro video?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Amish Trooper on February 14, 2014, 11:20:44 PM
Hmm I myself and 6 even. My arms aren't incredibly long. I wonder what scale I should go with?
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on February 14, 2014, 11:57:18 PM
Haggard if your going for a more fresh wound than those prosthetics will work fine. For a better way to allow yourself freedom to pull off whatever look you want I would go with a nice bottle of liquid latex and build up one of your very own. It's easy and you can get whatever look you want. Also if your looking for actual scarring that will show up great get yourself a bottle of rigid collodion.  Apply eye liner of a redish color to outline where you want the scar to go and how thick. After that build up several layers ( I usually go 10+ ) onto where you outlined where you want the scar with your makeup, allowing each layer to dry for a minute or two in between.  You will get a nice 3d look to the scar that will make it look more realistic. Then just set it with some clear powder and should be good to go and it's super cheap.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Quothcorvus on February 17, 2014, 06:15:15 AM
Yup, try rigid collodion, it does work well, I've used it quite a lot for healed facial scars.  As it dries, it shrinks and puckers the skin up.  You can apply s little makeup colour to it after it has dried if you fancy, but isnt necessary.  Personally, I didnt bother powdering it (didnt think of doing so) as it doesnt go sticky once dry.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on February 17, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
just been watching some tutorials and other videos on rigid collodion, This stuff looks FREAKIN AWESOME  ;D and simple to use too. Thanks to all who suggested it, will be ordering some very soon to have a play with
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on February 18, 2014, 06:07:59 AM
Nice Haggard you will love  ;D. It feels weird when it starts pulling at the skin but it's nothing crazy unless you have sensitive skin. Also be careful with it near your eyes and nose. It's a strong chemical smell that comes from it that I'm sure isn't good lol and also burns the eyes s bit if you go super close to the eye. Can't wait to see some pics of your work.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Quothcorvus on February 18, 2014, 07:10:45 AM
I think acetone is the solvent in rigid collodion.
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: cilegray on February 18, 2014, 07:21:55 AM
If it is indeed acetone, do wear a respirator around the stuff. Very bad for your lungs
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on March 01, 2014, 01:28:45 PM
I've had dealings with acetone in some of the chemicals i use at work, It is indeed nasty stuff, unfortunately i may have to enlist the help of my better half to apply it so she'll be the one needing the respirator mask
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on March 16, 2014, 12:55:55 PM
finally got around to having a play with the collodion, This stuff is amazing, a simple line of wax pencil and around 10 coats of the stuff later and the effect is..... well.....

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3196_2_zpsp4tmypjk.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3196_2_zpsp4tmypjk.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3198_zpsd5ryqxea.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3198_zpsd5ryqxea.jpg.html)

these are only tester "scars" but still for about 15 mins of sitting around while my better half jabs me in the face the results are far more than satisfactory, going to aim for a slightly less dark shade for the pencil lines though for the next attempt

A few quick shots with the upper armour and service studs in place too.

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3199_zps368pwrou.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3199_zps368pwrou.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3204_zpsnwzgs25s.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3204_zpsnwzgs25s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on March 16, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
The studs and scars look awesome. Glad the rigid collodion worked out for you. Very simple way of getting some mean looking scars done!  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on March 16, 2014, 04:05:08 PM
once again thanks for the recommendation, I'll be looking to make some slightly wider scars for my next text run and i shall be trimming my beard too. Rigid collodion and facial hair don't really go together well ;D

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on March 16, 2014, 04:47:43 PM
Lol yeah I got some in my eyebrow once and it was not fun getting it out lol
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on April 29, 2014, 01:41:29 PM
It's been a while since my last update and more progress has been made on my suit,

Brace yourselves, Here come the pics

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140423_204251_zps006c0199.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/20140423_204251_zps006c0199.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3439_zps941c4b5c.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3439_zps941c4b5c.jpg.html)

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140427_151816_zpsedf35960.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/20140427_151816_zpsedf35960.jpg.html)
(Terrible quality photo's i know ::))

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3437_zpsb6b6259b.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3437_zpsb6b6259b.jpg.html)
the sooner this thing is complete the better, my workroom is being overtaken by marine

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_3443_zpsda2d881c.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/DSC_3443_zpsda2d881c.jpg.html)
Re-rigged shoulders and extra details added

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Tuuuuuuuubes_zps29ec9448.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Tuuuuuuuubes_zps29ec9448.jpg.html)
PVC covered aluminium for the legs and arms

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/Tubeshowto_zps43377ba1.jpg) (http://s869.photobucket.com/user/haggard_13/media/Tubeshowto_zps43377ba1.jpg.html)
How do i into...... ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on April 30, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
Lol this is awesome. Hey got any pics of how u rigged your shoulders up!? Looking great bro!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on August 31, 2014, 11:36:23 AM
hey guys,

It's been a hell of a while since my last update i know. Life has been kind of hectic recently what with marriage and a car that refuses to play nice (amongst other things), as a result I've had to sink a lot of time,effort and money into these problems to get them sorted out to a point where i can continue the work on my suit. The only problem with that is I've been left feeling so burnt out in dealing with things that every time i even look at my suit i feel like i don't have the willpower to carry on with it's build, Bear with me though, by the Emperor, this suit will be completed (eventually ;D) 
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Terranova on August 31, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Watching your build closely!  Life first, everything else after. 

Sorry Emperor!
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Rraijjar on September 01, 2014, 03:58:56 AM
Well glad you are still alive and kicking  ;D cant wait for another update
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on September 17, 2014, 01:32:47 PM
Ok guys, bit of an update.

Turns out i made a GIANT mistake in my choice of seam filler, silicone sealant is NOT the way to go when sealing with PVA glue, it doesn't stick and no amount of sanding will get rid of the greasy surface left behind when it cures. As a result of this I've had to pick out nearly every seam on the legs, torso, cod, arms and shoulders and start from scratch. Irritating yes but it won't drive me to procrastination ;).

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140831_194623_zps3lmxnuro.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140831_194619_zpseuthiem5.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20140831_194614_zpsiqfkl7wk.jpg)

as you can see (potato quality images  ::)) i have most of the seams re filled and sanded and am starting to apply the first layers of acrylic although I'm thinking of using the acrylic as a kind of basecoat with a little added pva for good measure before final coating with spray paint, Found out too that acrylic paint can be sanded smooth :o

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/output_zpstvfo44mr.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/output_zpsmzv1pp5j.jpg)

little tip here too for those with multiple cuts in the back of the shin section like me;
take the edge parts of your foam (if you're using the mats) cut off the lumps and glue them to the top edge of the shin to give a neater edge, one strip should be enough for each shin.


Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Daeouse on October 06, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
Looking excellent! 8)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on October 11, 2014, 10:26:03 AM
Thanks Daeouse, It's slowly coming together even though life seems to have got in the way everytime i start to make any progress. As it would happen life has thrown me a curve again, I'm due to be starting a new job in the next week or so which means more money for materials and tools but less time to work on the suit.

Updates will happen but I can't be sure on how often  ;D
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on March 12, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
Ok guys, I'm back in business, After a long absence and many decisions made, I'm back, and with some changes to the direction in which my suit is going to take.

Decided to drop the Imperial Fists as trying all ways to get a decent coat of yellow was driving me insane and revert back to my original Blood Ravens scheme, I also started on some new iconography to replace some of the detailing i already had in place

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150309_184006_zps3uzh0qx9.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150309_184525_zpsgxbpgfou.jpg)

these next two photos are colour tests, one with flash and one without, I think i managed to get a paint match to how i painted my Raven, once the paint has been applied in full, it'll be battle grimed and possibly over brushed to lighten up the red

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150309_184708_zps5xnkl3wh.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150309_184721_zpsgqxxewyp.jpg)

(The hand in the pic belongs to my wife, too clean to be one of mine ;D)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: cilegray on March 12, 2015, 05:41:10 PM
I was gonna say something about the fingernails, lmao. Glad to hear you didn't just fall off the face of the earth or ditch the project
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on March 12, 2015, 05:43:05 PM
Update part 2

Chainsword!!!

When i first started out attempting to make props and armour, I decided to try my skills in making a good old trusty chainsword, that version can be seen in pics earlier in my thread. I have, However, decided to scrap that version and start again

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150310_213931_zpszijnyhwj.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150310_214116_zps4gg2e3ic.jpg)
old and new side by side
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150310_214551_zpssngfyhg3.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150310_225559_zps4nc5ojkr.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150311_224933_zpsnnr5udlf.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150311_225000_zpsb7ghja8c.jpg)

and a bonus shot of my new chest adornment
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150308_133711_zpssfyct0rw.jpg)
Title: Re: First time build ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Imperial Fists]++
Post by: Haggard13 on March 12, 2015, 05:46:06 PM
I was gonna say something about the fingernails, lmao. Glad to hear you didn't just fall off the face of the earth or ditch the project

I changed jobs around 5 months ago, turns out it wasn't the best move I've made. The money was worth it but the hours I worked were a nightmare, I was never home in all the time I was in the job and when I did manage to make it home I spent most of that time asleep
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Lupus Irae on March 14, 2015, 02:47:50 AM
Glad to see your back at it bro!! This project is too damn good for you to give up!! Keeping an eye out on your build.
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: ViolentDream on March 14, 2015, 10:14:04 PM
Those are good improvements! Good to know you're back in it... I've also been perennially held back by work and family life as well. 
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Daeouse on March 21, 2015, 11:23:32 PM
Looking excellent!
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: goat64804 on May 02, 2015, 12:17:09 AM
very good sir.
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on May 23, 2015, 03:33:51 PM
Hey guys,

been up to some more work recently, (getting it in when i have the time to that is,) and have been redoing some of my earlier work, mainly the torso mounting bit, i had already got the chest to sit quite nicely using copious amounts of upholstery foam blocks but i had forgotten to take the weight of the backpack into account so it ended up rolling back and smacking me under the chin  ::), hopefully i've got that part sorted now as i'm fabricating some aluminium brackets that will spread the weight over my back and keep the chest upright. I'll upload some pics if all goes well and it works   
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: B'rel_Knight on May 23, 2015, 07:42:45 PM
Looks amazing so far can't wait to see what you do next brother blood raven
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on July 27, 2015, 04:51:58 PM
Thank you Brother, This Raven will soon be appropriating "gifts" in the name of the Emperor,

Update time, now with added pictures  ;D

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0081_zpsuaromijw.jpg)

bit of a shot of the new chest mount, still needs tweaking and padding out but otherwise works well

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150727_203721_zpsbhryfsjh.jpg)

restrapped the legs and crotch and tweaked the tubing inside the knees,

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150727_203928_zpsbhemewic.jpg)

bit of a crossover, Adeptus Dredd

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150727_204732_zps6dzfdlf2.jpg)

still needs some final tweaks to bring everything into line but sits pretty comfortably

Bonus video, got to get that groove on  ;D
http://vid869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150727_205330_zpsqmeeudwe.mp4

Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: ViolentDream on July 28, 2015, 09:34:50 AM
Hey guys,

been up to some more work recently, (getting it in when i have the time to that is,) and have been redoing some of my earlier work, mainly the torso mounting bit, i had already got the chest to sit quite nicely using copious amounts of upholstery foam blocks but i had forgotten to take the weight of the backpack into account so it ended up rolling back and smacking me under the chin  ::), hopefully i've got that part sorted now as i'm fabricating some aluminium brackets that will spread the weight over my back and keep the chest upright. I'll upload some pics if all goes well and it works   
I am currently having the same issues with my backpack dragging back the torso. So you had the aluminum brackets reinforce yo back? How do you attach your backpack, by the way?

Sent from my LG-D690 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on July 28, 2015, 02:30:47 PM
It's kind of hard to describe so i'll put some piccys up in a few hours, basically my pack is bolted to the torso with three large bolts and washers and my brace is bolted through both with around 4 slightly smaller bolts, i still need to tweak the design slightly but it sits pretty straight. The only downside is that it makes the torso and pack one piece
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on July 28, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
as promised

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150728_203126_zpsfxuip5rd.jpg)

this one is looking through the pack, the three center bolts are the ones that hole the pack to the torso and the other six are the bolts that clamp the pack, torso and brace together

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150728_203156_zpss5ckjpdf.jpg)

this is looking through the arm hole of the torso, the brace is basically two strips of flat aluminium bent into a number 5 shape if you would with the curve over the shoulders and the box end resting against my lower back, there is also a couple of brace bars in there too to keep the brace from going out of shape, these are the best pics I can get at the minute as my wrangler is still working  ;D
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: ViolentDream on July 28, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
thanks for taking the time to post pics of your setup, brother. So the ends of the aluminum braces rest against your lower back - do they also rest or have any contact with the sides of the back your abdomen armor? Sorry for the many questions, but I'm drawing up plans on how to reinforce mine and would just want to compare notes :)
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Rraijjar on July 29, 2015, 01:53:10 AM
Looking great so far ;)
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on July 29, 2015, 12:03:17 PM
Looking great so far ;)

Thanks matey, been following your suit build too, Looking baddass  ;D

thanks for taking the time to post pics of your setup, brother. So the ends of the aluminum braces rest against your lower back - do they also rest or have any contact with the sides of the back your abdomen armor? Sorry for the many questions, but I'm drawing up plans on how to reinforce mine and would just want to compare notes :)

To be honest, i forgot to take that measurement into account when i made the brace parts, luckily i was blessed by the big E and they sit clear of the abs section by about an inch or two. Overall the brace sits around 5 1/2 inches (14cm) above my belt line on a normal pair of pants at the back and the front parts meet in a v shape just below my breastbone, the tops of the shoulders are in line with the edges of the collar and i'm planning to add some foam off cuts to the torso so it just rests on top of the brace
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: ViolentDream on July 30, 2015, 08:32:58 PM
Looking great so far ;)

Thanks matey, been following your suit build too, Looking baddass  ;D

thanks for taking the time to post pics of your setup, brother. So the ends of the aluminum braces rest against your lower back - do they also rest or have any contact with the sides of the back your abdomen armor? Sorry for the many questions, but I'm drawing up plans on how to reinforce mine and would just want to compare notes :)

To be honest, i forgot to take that measurement into account when i made the brace parts, luckily i was blessed by the big E and they sit clear of the abs section by about an inch or two. Overall the brace sits around 5 1/2 inches (14cm) above my belt line on a normal pair of pants at the back and the front parts meet in a v shape just below my breastbone, the tops of the shoulders are in line with the edges of the collar and i'm planning to add some foam off cuts to the torso so it just rests on top of the brace

that's pretty solid already! So no more dragging down from the backpack now?
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on July 31, 2015, 06:15:03 AM
There is a little backwards tilt but I'm hoping that will be sorted when i add the padding to the brace as it seems to be more down to the shape of my back than the brace
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on August 04, 2015, 03:36:48 PM
More progress, The suit is now pretty much one colour and I've started to weather from the legs up, I still have some smaller items to make and fit such as the belt and maybe some krak grenades.

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150730_211533_zpsem6ixwr4.jpg)
the chest eagle is only pinned on here to give an idea of where best to place it and I'm going to try to wrap the wings when it comes to sticking it down

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150731_210705_zps0gfr7spu.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150801_172812_zpsqevtvgjn.jpg)
colour test for the relic knee in the first photo and final weathering in the second photo, I didn't know exactly how much weathering to apply so just went hell for leather with it and to me it doesn't look too bad, gives the armour a well worn look

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150804_112830_zps3satqjqv.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150804_112913_zpsx5irtwly.jpg)

picked up some new hockey gloves today too, going to keep them black for the first few outings and then maybe look into adding some thinner foam and giving them the ravens red treatment
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on August 22, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
Been making steady progress recently, got some more weathering done and starting to paint and assemble the final details now

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0474_zpsvpz0zcku.jpg)


The pauldrons are also painted and detailed with a little weathering thrown in for good measure

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150818_223957_zpshyzbfl4o.jpg)

made some frag grenades to cover the splits in the belt

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150820_211416_zpsqvkuk2q5.jpg)

and started to finish the backpack off by adding all the fiddly bits

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150822_134647_zpsghebj4ca.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150822_144836_zpswrir5lil.jpg)

ViolentDream Here is a pic of my chest brace, I had to take it out to separate the pack from the chest so i took a picture which hopefully can help out a bit more than my explanation did  ;D

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150820_231630_zps2yqmwfnu.jpg)

and a video too, walking the walk but not quite talking the talk, forgot just how weighty these suits are

http://vid869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/MOV_0477_zpsop3h415t.mp4
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on September 05, 2015, 11:03:15 AM
another update as the will of the Emperor is definitely driving me recently.

Those of you who have been here since the start of my suit build (and original members too) will know that I'm quite the lazy builder and very prone to procrastination ;D, I've dealt with ups and downs over the past two years and even come very close to writing off the project at one stage, but finally the end is in sight
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0529_zpsul6smri0.jpg)

After all the trials and tribulations, the steep (for me anyway) learning curve and the numerous setbacks endured throughout, My Blood Ravens Sergeant is almost complete. It's hard to describe the feeling of accomplishment every time I look at pictures of the near completed suit.

This post goes out to all of the members that have taken time to follow my build, offer advice or helpful suggestions or generally just be supportive in any way, community spirit definitely goes a long way ;D Thank you to all and hopefully some of my experience detailed in this thread can be of use to other members new and old alike.

anyway enough of the emotional stuff ::) more pics!!! ;D

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0530_zps0yxlsdgg.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0534_zpsrgj9w7zc.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0541_zpsvq3ankg4.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0544_zpsuwgstrsz.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0546_zpsssrqhxfg.jpg)

http://vid869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/MOV_0539_zpsv3ujr4mg.mp4

And a video showing the full suit with my wife for scale size (another thank you to her for kicking me up the arse and keeping me motivated too ;D)
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: lordchammon on September 06, 2015, 12:03:02 PM
great great job!
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: prev on September 06, 2015, 11:41:29 PM
Suit looks really good bro!!!!

May I suggest raising the shoulders about 6 inches, to free up your elbows and possibly help with movement?
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Rraijjar on September 07, 2015, 03:13:24 AM
Looking great! Add some purity seals and it will be even more awesome ;D
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: cilegray on September 08, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
I'm glad you didn't give up on this, it's looking great
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on September 12, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
As always, thank you all for the feedback,

Rraijjar - Purity seals are being cast from a master cast of the seal that was included in the space marine collectors edition, I've been experimenting with using plasticine for the initial cast and some of the results are promising so I should be underway with those once I get my hands on a silicone moulding kit

prev - I'm currently undertaking the job of raising the shoulders and adding some more mobility by using the castor and peg method, I'll post up some pics if my work pans out ok ;D

cilegray - I know, I'm glad too. If I'd have given up mid way through the build I don't think I'd ever forgive myself now :-[

lordchammon - Thanks matey, It's the positives that have kept me going through this build and they're always welcome (negative feedback is welcome too as it means I can use it to improve on things I may overlook)
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: prev on September 12, 2015, 06:47:57 PM
I think you need a bolter.

Any further progress on the chainsword???
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on September 13, 2015, 06:22:31 AM
I've been toying with the idea of a bolter but for now I'll be sticking with the bolt pistol and chainsword option, there have been plans for possibly a flamer too. My chainsword is almost completed, just waiting for some more materials to finish it up so I've been remaking my bolt pistol as i wasn't happy with the original one
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150905_182748_zpsg0mvj4bo.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150906_134230_zpsigemdkal.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150906_134141_zps4vx8mun4.jpg)

The new one is a lot cleaner and better built, a bit of a testament to how my skills have improved during the build i guess, Now I have some decent astartes sized weapons  8)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150906_134605_zpsbedxuguw.jpg)

here is the new and improved chest and shoulder mount, now the shoulders are supported seperately and it has taken some of the stress off the chest, some tweaks and adjustments are needed but overall it seems to work really well
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/DSC_0606_zpsu3fsrfbm.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150912_191109_zpsgxp4y8nv.jpg)
not really the best quality photo but it shows the castor with the wheel removed and the hardwood peg fixed into the underside of the shoulder
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150912_202345_zpss0z4igvi.jpg)
and here is the chest and shoulders as a whole, It's given me a 4-5 inch lift in the shoulders as well as a lot more mobility, I need to also add padding to the inside of the shoulder to made them sit straight against my biceps. The only thing i have had a problem with is the geometry of the arms, with things being moved and raised, I'm going to have to modify the arm holes in the chest to give me a bit more movement range, hopefully i should be able to touch my hands together in front of me
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Haggard13 on September 20, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
prev - you were asking about the chainsword, It's nearly complete, I just need to add some small details I've overlooked but the chainsword itself is ready for sealing and paint
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150920_210952_zpsczbpyqqw.jpg)
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150920_210923_zpsz2rjbobn.jpg)

It stands at around 4ft in length and I'm guessing it weighs around 1 kg, I'll have to weigh and measure for exact details but I can't for the life of me find my tape measure

I have a rough cast of my master purity seal too, It was a pain in the arse trying to cast with plasticine but after a few attempts I'm happy with the end result. This master will be used to create a silicone mould from which i can cast up some more seals.
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab258/haggard_13/20150902_202830_zps8c7yj5qg.jpg)
Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: prev on September 20, 2015, 06:20:57 PM
Looks like the journey of this suit is almost over. Awesome dude.

Chainsword looks really good - do you plan on putting a hand guard on it, or leave it as is?

Here are some different designs, in case you do decide to put a guard on:

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/d/d6/BA_Chainsword.png/revision/latest?cb=20141214075947)

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/67/SW_Chainsword.png/revision/latest?cb=20140810210633)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6180/6168935637_378770988b_b.jpg)

No doubt, there are many more variations...

In the end, it's your weapon, and your choice. Carry on.

Title: Re: ++[Sgt Hergard 5th Company, 1st Squad, Blood Ravens]++
Post by: Gunhead on September 22, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
Those are beautiful purity seals. The detail work is inspiring. Very good work.