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Costuming => Space Marines => Topic started by: Djinn on June 09, 2010, 08:16:00 AM

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 09, 2010, 08:16:00 AM
All right then.

I have been working on weapons for a SM suit for awhile now.. and since the weapons are at an acceptable level.. I..  I guess its time to actually start on the armor itself. I will be doing a Black Templar sergeant, NO HELMET, assault marine(if i can find a pep file for the jump pack anyways)
I figured I should start with the hardest part first. The chest piece. After collecting all of the pep files I could get my grubby little hands on, I picked one I thought I could use and went with it.

Let me tell you, pepakura is retarded.

13 hours later:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs262.snc3/27783_408340728296_751053296_4290182_2325913_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs312.ash1/27783_408340753296_751053296_4290185_5540934_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 09, 2010, 08:21:00 AM
This is my first time ever using pepakura, resin, fiberglass, or.. really any part of this things construction. I'm pretty much winging it as I go.
This is after I put the first coat of resin on the outside.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs609.snc3/32083_410284108296_751053296_4342696_447983_n.jpg)
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs609.snc3/32083_410284123296_751053296_4342697_8366180_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs549.ash1/32083_410284148296_751053296_4342698_2542206_n.jpg)

The resining I did two days ago.. been tweaking and reinforcing various parts with fiberglass and stuff for the last two days. Finished the resining job more or less early today. NOW ITS BONDO TIME.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs609.snc3/32083_410321338296_751053296_4344002_3635103_n.jpg)

45 minutes of sanding later (I only did the front at this point)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs609.snc3/32083_410320588296_751053296_4343949_1007163_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs609.snc3/32083_410320598296_751053296_4343950_5752479_n.jpg)

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 09, 2010, 08:25:00 AM
I bondo'd and sanded the back down as well, didnt take pictures of it though. I have a lot of filling and cleanup to do. Lots of sanding and fixing to do.. bbuutt I wanted to know. I NEEDED TO KNOW
So I put a thin coat of black on it. Helps me to see the parts that need fixing.
and hey, what do you know, it fits!

(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs639.snc3/32083_410359248296_751053296_4344547_4936377_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on June 09, 2010, 11:36:00 PM
That looks awesome! It might be a bit short over your stomach, but I suppose once you get the middle flexible part done that issue will go away.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 10, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
Did some additional bondo fixes and sanding today. Going to throw another coat of paint on it and see what I got.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs609.snc3/32083_410569123296_751053296_4347088_6425534_n.jpg)
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs639.snc3/32083_410569103296_751053296_4347087_6161365_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on June 10, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
impressive, i've never really held stock for peprika projects, but your making it work.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 10, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
Very nice.

 I have never tried peprika, but between Amancue and your work it makes it more temepting. Did you use the same files as he did?

I wonder if there is a pep file for a powerfist....?

That would be interesting...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 10, 2010, 06:42:00 PM
I honestly would not recommend it. I have no idea what files amancue used, but I sort of customized a file I found awhile ago. It seemed to work out.. This is my first time using pepakura...  meh

Anyways the armor is VERY hard, I guess.. you know.. kind of like armor =P But its fairly rigid too. Not a lot fo flex, I dont really need or want the breastplate to flex, but for high mobility parts it may become an issue. I think I am only going to use pep for the chest, shoulders, and backpack. Mostly because I think accurately scratchbuilding those things would be ridiculous >.<

Just cutting out and folding the chest and gluing it together took about 13-14 hours. It is very.. very.. time consuming. But it does work, with a lot of cleanup and bondo it can look good (Those super amazing ultramarines and khorne berserkers from that short film were resin and bondo)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 10, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
Also repainted it. Most of the cleanup is finished, a bit more to do on the collar area (its hard to get power tools in those little ass cracks heh)

Almost time to start adding copious amounts of heraldry! I'm going to try my hand at ETCHING. Since bondo is pretty much PERFECT for stuff like that. Hopefully I wont be fail at it =P
Anyways, here it is.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs609.snc3/32083_410763578296_751053296_4351038_3793358_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 11, 2010, 12:49:00 AM
Moving right a long. I like to do my weathering/decorating at the end, when the suit is mostly assembled. So I'm sidelining the BP for the moment and working on the NEXT bit. The accursed Pauldrons.
Of all of the SM costumes I have seen the piece that makes the armor look retarded or retarded awesome is usually the pauldrons. Rule of huge in WH40k be damned, I refuse to let this build be one of the many failures.
With that in mind..
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs549.ash1/32083_410848313296_751053296_4352963_1713248_n.jpg)

This is actually the third one ive made in the last 2 days x.@ Took me forever to get the size right for me/my BP. a pretty clean build from the pep file.. should be easier to work with then the BP.

(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs639.snc3/32083_410850608296_751053296_4353039_1664937_n.jpg)

Here it is with the BP - size seems almost perfect to my eyes anyways. It ends about halfway down my bicep, does not impede my vision, and rotates fully on the BPs shoulder area.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 11, 2010, 08:10:00 AM
Heresy grows from idleness.

Second shoulder pepped.
Don't mind the dent.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs549.ash1/32083_410930128296_751053296_4354778_6128824_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on June 11, 2010, 12:56:00 PM
This is turning out to be a very awesome suit of armour you're making. and yeah, the shoulders looks to be the right size...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: toydivision on June 11, 2010, 06:00:00 PM
This looks seriously fantasic- also I love seeing step by steps.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: MalleusIST on June 11, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
Dude, the dent honestly makes it look like the suit's been in recent combat and hasn't been worked on by a tech-priest yet.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 12, 2010, 03:50:00 AM
Hahaha, I may have a bolter crater or two in it by the time I'm finished. Who knows what the weathering will be like when I get around to it.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 12, 2010, 05:07:00 PM
The Templars have a lot of robes and hooded capes.

 In fact the majority of the Black Templar mini's I have seen have had a tabard covering the BP and legs. Are you planing on making one for your suit?

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 13, 2010, 02:09:00 AM
Yes.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 13, 2010, 11:54:00 PM
I found this today and thought you might like a link to it.

It's a ribbed neck seal made for a storm trooper costume, however 40k armors will often show the same type of "under armor".
 you can see it on the new Gabriel Seth modle

(http://www.mrocznyraj.pl/sklep/images/produkty/wh40k-FTGabrielSeth1.jpg)

(http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/starwars_neckseal_dickie_1.jpg)

http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/imperial.htm (http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/imperial.htm)

They offer a full body suit, but only the neck is ribbed.

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on June 14, 2010, 12:08:00 AM
I'd be a bit wary of Shadowdale, they seem to bounce back and forth between good vendor and "never get your stuff.". That being said, if you look around a bit, you can find those pretty easily.  Most of the 501st has at least one of them of some form.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 14, 2010, 02:37:00 AM
Don't you worry! I plan on getting a 501st style one of those neckseals. If I put as much work as I have been into it, I cannot afford to skimp on the little things. My first costume was a full body set of mandalorian battle armor, and after being a member of the mandalorian mercs for awhile, I've actually become good friends with the bulk of the 501st here in the islands. That is pretty much the exact neckseal I will be using, I am probably also going to make a ribbed style under armor for any part that shows through the armor.
I've got it all planned out, it is just going to take time.. and money.. of which I sadly do not have copious amounts of =P I've taken the last few days off from making armor, but I'll get started with it again next week.

Edit: That site has some great resources, thanks for the link.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 16, 2010, 05:09:00 AM
Not a big update, took the weekend off of working on it to cool down. Dark Millinium trailer has increased my desire to complete this project twofold XD
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs658.snc3/32503_412348888296_751053296_4397109_5618953_n.jpg)
Bondo'd up the shoulders, I have a lot of sanding in my future. Can't start on it till tomorrow though.. sadface.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on June 16, 2010, 05:12:00 AM
You have a way with Bondo, unlike myself. Oh the things I've ruined by being sloppy with that stuff.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 16, 2010, 05:18:00 AM
Also: My next project.. I'm going to try and do a half pepped half scratchbuilt power pack. I dont want to have to do all the folding and bondo work to fix the round parts and make the holes.. so im just going to scratchbuilt those bits.
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3396/powerpack.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 17, 2010, 04:11:00 AM
Sanded down the pauldrons today. Took 2 hours >.<
Need to do a bit of clean up, going to do fixes and 2nd round of bondoing tomorrow.

Still. Progress!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs559.ash1/32565_412619713296_751053296_4402548_4473769_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 17, 2010, 06:36:00 AM
Also, I didn't spend that 12 hours waiting for the bondo to dry and sanding, I spent 2 hours sanding. and 11 hours cutting/scoring/folding THIS.

(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs619.snc3/32565_412643448296_751053296_4402973_6973585_n.jpg)
will post more pics when I complete it. I'm pepping the body part of the power pack, and then scratchbuilding the vents and other bits. I have all ready resined the inside of the main body, and have plans to wire it up with blinking lights and all sorts of little goodies. It is perfect for a hidden hinge/door combo. I am going to have too much fun working on this bit.

My buddy in the 501st is going to hook me up with one of these bad boys.
(http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/starwars_new_republic_commando_neck_seal_1.jpg)
I like the look of the bigger ribs vs the smaller storm trooper version.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on June 17, 2010, 07:16:00 AM
any tips for first time bondo users?
brands, methods of application, thickness and sanding techniques?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 17, 2010, 07:39:00 AM
As far as I know there is only one brand of bondo. a Gallon thing of it is like $18 here (and hawaii is expensive, so its fairly cheap stuff)
For the pep work.. there were a decent bit of folded edges that I needed to hide. You pretty much use as little bondo as you possibly can (any extra you'll have to sand off later, adding tons of time to your workload) I used a plastic card (old credit card) to spread the bondo around the shoulder pads, its a 2 part mixture, comes with a hardener that is red and the bondo which is white. Mix enough hardener into whatever amount of bondo you are using till it turns orange or red. Not SUPER red, just .. a little red.(use small amounts, it sets REALLY fast and you can always make more).
Once you mix it, you got about 5 minutes before it sets and you're stuck with what you've got. I used too little hardener on my shoulders, and they never FULLY dried, it was dry and rock hard, but "gummy" enough to ruin sandpaper pretty fast. Make sure you can see the redness once its mixed =P
It only takes like an hour to be rock hard, and from there you just sand it down. I used a rotating power sander with 80 grit sandpaper. For the edges there was this sonic vibrating.. edge.. sander.. .. I pity the fool who tries to do bondo work without power tools. The sanding alone would make you want to die.

As you can see i sanded mine pretty thin, I actually sanded through the resin and paper in a few spots, I'll have to go back with tape and resin and fix those, then rebondo them and sand again =P Sigh sigh sigh..
It's not really that easy of stuff to work with, but it has pretty amazing potential. It only takes a TINY TINY TINY coat of bondo to produce a really nice paintable surface.

Bondo is very rigid and will crack if flexed.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 17, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
God I'm tired. I made massive progress today though. Turned off my phone and worked on my armor from 9am till 2:30am XD My mind is broken and I swear to god if I see another piece of paper or bottle of glue I'm going to kill someone.

But here it is! >.<
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs047.ash2/35736_412683918296_751053296_4403765_1431239_n.jpg)

While i was constructing it I had it split into 3 parts, i resined the inside of each of those parts (since i wouldnt be able to do it when it was put together) and had some weird looking resin bleed through on the front sheet =P Easily fixed when i resin the outside tomorrow. (and then there is always bondo)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs047.ash2/35736_412683928296_751053296_4403766_7215906_n.jpg)
I decided not to pep the jets.. I think i can scratchbuild that myself.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on June 17, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
For the jets you might check out Lowes or Home Depot.  I've seen some acrylic light domes that would work well (they even have the lip).
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on June 17, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
You're doing an awesome job. :D
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 17, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
Look around for big plastic x-mass orniments, they are out of season, but you might find some around. Asking never hurts [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

But they will be the perfect shape and light wieght.


Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 17, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
And as was said before, Home Depot should have these.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores...172&marketID=65 (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100671511&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=100671511&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D27X-_-100671511&locStoreNum=6172&marketID=65)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 17, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
Aye, on my way downtown right now to search for good jets =P I'll be sure to check those stores in my rounds.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs105.snc4/35632_412854988296_751053296_4408196_780596_n.jpg)

After much searching, i found some perfect 6" polycarb ball thingies for the vents. havent done any cutting or modding yet, but meh. perfect!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs085.snc4/35632_412855003296_751053296_4408197_6437443_n.jpg)
Size comparison when attached to the BP
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on June 18, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
Before you get too far, I figure I'll let you in on a few of the ideas I had for my own armour a while back before I decided I had nowhere near enough technical know-how to actually build it.  I have a whole list of features I wanted to incorporate.  These are the three I can remember off the top of my head.  If I ever find the list or think of any more I'll post them up.

Number one: fans in the backpack vents that link up with hoses in the back armour to circulate exterior air throughout the torso

Number two: Camelbak bladder in the backpack with the hose running up through the neck seal

Number three: MkVI Corvus helm, so you have enough room for a voice changer.  You could take one from a kids toy helmet or something, but I wanted to run either a throat mic or a small regular mic to the guts of an octave pedal and practice amp (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Smokey-Amp-Mini-Amp?sku=483005) in the backpack, then back up to a small speaker in the helmet.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 18, 2010, 01:58:00 AM
Looks fantastic!

 I'm really impressed with the work you've done so far, you get a gold star!

Can't wait to see how the rest of this turns out.


Keep it up!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 03:10:00 AM
Quote from: Cptn. Palladorus date=1276837080
Number one: fans in the backpack vents that link up with hoses in the back armour to circulate exterior air throughout the torso

Number two: Camelbak bladder in the backpack with the hose running up through the neck seal

Number three: MkVI Corvus helm, so you have enough room for a voice changer.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 04:16:00 AM
After the resin dried.. obvious warping has forced me to do this! FORCED ME! I cannot live with such blatent imperfections in shape >.<
BONDO!
SAVE ME!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs085.snc4/35632_412899953296_751053296_4408994_7988872_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 06:40:00 AM
Decided it was time to have a little fun. After successfully making a template for a front only tabard, I decided to fumble around with ways of attaching my shoulder bells to the torso. After figuring it out I just had to try it all on for a bit of fun.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs045.ash2/35632_412921488296_751053296_4409429_6100833_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs085.snc4/35632_412921498296_751053296_4409430_3016199_n.jpg)

I like the way the tabard looks. With all the detailing I PLAN on doing, I wanted to still be able to see the chest Aquila, with the low cut front look I still get to show off that symbol, and get all the benefits of a tabard (looks/concealment)
I think I'm having too much fun with this.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on June 18, 2010, 08:23:00 AM
the eyebrow piercing fits the look really well, looks like a brother captain rank pip
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on June 18, 2010, 09:50:00 AM
This armour just gets better an better  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
I very much looking foreward to seeing the finished work...

... It would be very awesome if you shaved your head for the costume as well  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
If I don't shave my head, I will at least have very short hair =P None of this Gabriel Angelos bullcrap.

I started doing the fun bits today though. Little bit of heraldry here.. maybe some Aquilas there.. .. few purity seals over tthheerree
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs105.snc4/35632_412946558296_751053296_4409923_2397201_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on June 18, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
If you have access to a sewing machine, I would suggest you hem the tabard for a cleaner look.  My personal suggestion (because I hate dealing with curves) is to sew extra wide double folded bias tape around the edges.  The tape is a single color for its entire length, but you can find it in a bunch of different colors if you want to contrast it with the tabard itself.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
Aye, I haven't even started on the tabard yet. I had a piece of cloth lying around and cut a hole in it - thats as far as I got on it. Sewing will happen eventually.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: brin-milo on June 18, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
this is looking amazing! really good job so far! i cannot wait to see this completed!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 18, 2010, 09:19:00 PM
Heresy grows from idleness.. So when I woke up this morning I grabbed the sander and got to work.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs045.ash2/35632_413078668296_751053296_4412978_6209193_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs105.snc4/35632_413078678296_751053296_4412979_6588743_n.jpg)

First round of bondo sanding done. Thank god. Two hours in the hawaii sun nearly killed me. It looks a hell of a lot cleaner now though, also don't worry about the holes. I have something fun planned for those.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 19, 2010, 03:59:00 AM
I finished up the sanding and repair work on the torso and shoulder bells today. finally... FINALLY. they are DONE! No more sanding! No more Bondo! These bad boys are ready to be painted, weathered, and buried balls deep in heraldry. I can barely wait for the coat of black to dry to start my dark work =P This is where the fun starts~
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs045.ash2/35632_413158398296_751053296_4415516_580117_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 19, 2010, 04:08:00 AM
Nice progress, I am looking forward to your next update!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 19, 2010, 04:47:00 AM
Little update for yah. Finished some of my heraldry anyways =P Haven't attached it yet, but here yah go.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs045.ash2/35632_413163028296_751053296_4415703_6340825_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 19, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
Heerree we go. Added the heraldry I had to the pieces where I wanted them. Will be making more and doing more to the pauldrons tomorrow. I'm tired as all hell =P
Current progress shots inc.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs085.snc4/35632_413191448296_751053296_4416500_6155969_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs045.ash2/35632_413191463296_751053296_4416501_427104_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs045.ash2/35632_413191473296_751053296_4416502_8038773_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 21, 2010, 01:21:00 AM
Wow, the speed at which your building this is awesome... you own stock in redbull?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 21, 2010, 01:24:00 AM
Question: how high can you raise your arms to the sides and infront of you?

Question 2: is that the back pack on the couch behind you?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 21, 2010, 04:44:00 AM
I do not own stock in red bull XD I'm more of a Redline/endorush kind of guy anyways =P as I think I've said before. HERESY GROWS FROM IDLENESS.

I can't move my arms above my head. I get to about a "T" position and cannot go higher. I don't really see any need for more mobility then that, but I haven't actually set up the shoulder system yet.. Right now its the most ghetto construct imaginable holding those shoulders on (something temporary so i could take pictures =P) I will probably have more mobility when I sit down and think of a better system for it. Mobility is pretty good though, as good as I hoped to get with shoulders that large anyways.

Yes, that is my power pack. Atleast the start of it. I haven't finished it much more past where it was at before, though I did finish the exhaust vents.. I guess I can post some pics of those. I have a lot more sanding and repair work to do on the backpack before I'm ready to hook it up to the suit though.
There is a nice big flat square panel on the back of the breastplate that the pack fits right onto.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs139.snc4/37268_413712503296_751053296_4434487_7277460_n.jpg)

Unfinished obviously, but I've decided to go with the whole "ALL TRIM THAT IS NOT BLACK/WHITE IS GOING TO BE GOLD" thing. Played around with some heat scoring weathering effects on the vents.. like the way it turned out - might make it darker by the end.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 21, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs139.snc4/37268_413754718296_751053296_4435688_457446_n.jpg)
Closed the big hole in the top, leveled out the faces, sanded everything down, fixes all the holes, made mounts for the exhaust vents, and am ready for the first //real// coat of paint. Pretty excited.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 22, 2010, 04:55:00 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs018.snc4/34266_414024843296_751053296_4443061_5295426_n.jpg)

Damn thing is finally clean enough for me to be happy with it. took soo much more work then everything else to make look clean.. it boggles my mind. The big scar is intentional, got to have a bit of battle damage here and there eh? I have a weathering technique I'm going to try on it from when I did my mando.. hopefully it transitions well.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 22, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
What did you use for the top vents?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 22, 2010, 01:10:00 PM
Some little 2 inch circular vents I found at home depot.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs018.ash2/34266_414099573296_751053296_4445053_989537_n.jpg)
Decided to finish it enough to put it on the side and start on the next piece, so here it is! Tried some experimental weathering on it that I actually like a bit. Will finish it later though, I want to work on a different piece all ready hur hur
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 22, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
Weather the edges and it will look awesome. Looks great now, but a little more on the edges, doesn't have to be much, will really make it stand out.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on June 22, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
the exhaust vents look great!

look at the edges carefully, consider what edges would wear naturally as the marine is stomping around, outer more than inner edges, and when you get to the feet, particularly the lower edges of the ankle armor.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 22, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
Ugh, well it looks like I lied to myself =P First thing I did this morning was go back out and ROUND 5 sand that bitch. I noticed some uneven edges that are visible from every angle but directly behind, so i sanded them down flat and am currently redoing the paint, now with more edge wear! Honestly I didn't know how it would look, and since I cant find any pictures of SM armor "Wear" showing METAL underneath I was a bit leary to do it, but it does look nice. I'm going to try weathering the edges now, if it works out looking good I'll show how I did it (though I'm sure you guys know the drill)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 23, 2010, 12:12:00 AM
Well, here it is then! Can you spot the differences?
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs018.snc4/34266_414258473296_751053296_4448700_6764166_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs018.ash2/34266_414259738296_751053296_4448719_5955079_n.jpg)

will be doing more with it later, but I've been putting off making the arm/leg pieces for too long.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on June 23, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
That's mint, especially the vents. Best backpack I've seen, and it will look even better when you're walking around.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on June 23, 2010, 02:43:00 AM
looking good!

 But try taking a silver sharpie marker and running it along the egdes. you can dull it by running your finger along it, but what it will do is high light the edge and give you a nice finish that shows off the differnt plans and angles of your piece.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 23, 2010, 03:15:00 AM
Topical weathering is all well and good, but I'm a big fan of the layered weathering look, which is what I did so far anyways. A nice little coat of chrome.. some sanding to scuff it up and give it an aged metal look when its dry.. a little heinz ketchup over all the areas i want to show the metal.. then paint to finish! When finished.. take a paper towel and wipe off the ketchup covered areas, all the paint comes right off down to the metal - giving it a nice layered look in the paint. Hard to see in the picture but its a fairly nice effect vs topical weathering. I'm pretty sure they make stuff specifically for what I did.. but ketchup worked just as well so meh.

I'll pick up a silver sharpie and try it out though, those things make awesome on the go fix up tools anyways "Aww frick paint chipped off, BATTLE DAMAGE HEYO"
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 23, 2010, 09:34:00 AM
Last update for a couple of days, I made a concept design for one of my gauntlets. Obviously very preliminary, but I think this shape is going to at least be the base.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs071.ash2/36927_414347033296_751053296_4451178_30092_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 26, 2010, 03:36:00 AM
I'll not be outdone by the Ordo Malleus! Well.. ok.. maybe I will.. but still. I must have progress!

I found some nice foam material to try on the gaunts, but I'm so bad at drawing schematics and templates I just gave up and pepped a pair of gauntlets =P I'll be heavily modifying these in the coming days, but its a solid base to build upon.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs182.snc4/37452_415162243296_751053296_4469496_4860587_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs182.snc4/37452_415162248296_751053296_4469497_1440387_n.jpg)
Those are the gloves I plan to use for the suit. They have thick leather pads on the back of the hand and each finger digit, minus the trigger finger. "Repelling gloves" I believe they were called. It will take only very slight modification to make these gloves perfect for this costume. I'll have new ones though.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on June 28, 2010, 03:03:00 AM
much better job, except one thing that bothers me.. i was looking at the backpack and kept thinking something didnt look right.

it's the eagle.
how can a battle scar on the backpack strip off paint UNDER the eagle?
my suggestions to this,
chop the eagle foot off to keep with the scar damage.
add some black paint around the eagle foot to help it look more natural, and shrink the scar abit.

or move the eagle.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 28, 2010, 04:20:00 AM
I was thinking the same thing >.< I wanted to put a big ol gash through the eagle, but then .. I had the razorknife in my hand.. .. and.. I.. just couldn't do it. I guess I either really like that piece, or it stings of Heresy to deface the imperial symbol.
I'll probably move it.
Or.. you know.. actually..  that foot accidently got cut off when I was making it, and i cut out a whole new one and glued it on. Maybe that was fate just telling me to take that foot off.
F*ck it. Emperor forgive me.
*picks up the knife*
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 28, 2010, 04:30:00 AM
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7053/1001243k.jpg)

Doesn't look quite right to me with that top area emblemless. I think I'll put a black templar cross up there and gash the hell out of that. The eagle took too much time =P Think it will work on the bottom?
I also took finns advice and tried the silver sharpie. did a bunch of additional weathering on it - think it looks pretty good. It's got a bunch of scuff marks and other crap on it I need to rub off, but yeah.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 28, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
Not really a progress update, but I figured out a good way to attach the shoulder bells and backpack to the chest piece. Backpack size looks good. Now for the rest of it~(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs041.ash2/35407_415760428296_751053296_4488385_3030271_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on June 28, 2010, 03:30:00 PM
Lookin' mighty sharp. Wait until it all comes together.

Tummy belts.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 03:25:00 AM
I haven't been dawdling, I promise!
I'll post what I've been up to for the past couple days later tonight, but here is what I just finished! Didn't turn out too bad for first time attempt at sewing. I obviously need to do some damage to it, but that will come later. I want to make sure I don't mess up the CLEANSING WITH FIRE bit of the weathering process.. because Emperor help me if I have to make another one.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs088.snc4/35763_416665098296_751053296_4509006_1406422_n.jpg)
Also Colin, Tummy belts.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs073.ash2/36983_416041438296_751053296_4495295_8359071_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 05:44:00 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs046.snc4/34657_416697063296_751053296_4509834_3492473_n.jpg)

Let the purging begin! Upper body pieces FINISHED. Well sans heraldry and weathering anyways. The base is done though, and I'm pretty happy with it so far. I have some minor work to do on the bicep guards (They look a little "thin" to me, compared to the gauntlets and elbows - this will change)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs026.ash2/34657_416697068296_751053296_4509835_3267991_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs026.ash2/34657_416697073296_751053296_4509836_3471393_n.jpg)

Next up, the abdomen/cod and leg armor! Hoorah!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on July 01, 2010, 06:00:00 AM
Look absolutely amazing so far! The only thing I can say to add would be a black turtleneck, or better yet a ribbed neckpiece of some kind.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
Oh yeah, my buddy over at the 501st is making me a ribbed clone trooper neckseal. Don't have it quite yet yet - this was mostly the "GODDAMMIT THESE ARMS TOOK FOREVER AND ARE ANNOYING THEY BETTER WORK OH THANK GOD" picture session.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on July 01, 2010, 09:35:00 AM
This just keeps getting better and better  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />  
Looking foreward to seeing the finished suit...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Tango89er on July 01, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
Awesome job. If you don't want to give the tabard the flamer treatment, you could always use artist's charcoal to makeit look weathered and burnt
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on July 01, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
I'm happy to see this turning out so well. You'll probably have the best movement out of any SM cosplay.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on July 01, 2010, 05:34:00 PM
Quote from: Tango89er date=1278004140
Awesome job. If you don't want to give the tabard the flamer treatment, you could always use artist's charcoal to makeit look weathered and burnt
Another option in cement dye.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on July 01, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Wow, this is amazing.

If you get a break in your building frenzy i have 2 questions:  One, how did you connect everything to the BP?  And two, where did you find the templates for the shoulders?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
I actually bolted the backpack directly to the breastplate. There is that mount point on the back (I used the same pep file as you for the chest)
The shoulder bells are actually connected on the inside using straps with those three pronged clips. It runs from about halfway up the inside of the shoulder bell straight over to the chest. Extremely easy to attach and remove, gives a surprisingly large amount of mobility while keeping the bells exactly where I want them.

I have like 4 different shoulder files, the ones I used are from extensive googling on my part. I think it was from the "Corvus Armor" set. I'm using a lot of files from that set. I think its based off a space wolf model.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
Here you are brother! This is a collection of all of the pep files I've found/modified. It also has a large collection of non unfolded 3d images oh weapons of all types. It's a pretty good collection. Hope you find something in it you like~

Astartes.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/404359106/Astartes.rar.html)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on July 01, 2010, 08:50:00 PM
Thanks,  i had no idea how to do the chest/shoulders
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs067.ash2/36730_416771793296_751053296_4512024_291850_n.jpg)
 Heyoo! Stayed up till 3 last night FOLDING. Not as much fun as it sounds. At least I got the thighs ready for resin though =P

Also keith! Any chance you have a 3d model laying around for this? (http://dev.aquilagaming.com/shop_items/space_marine_commander_iron_halo.jpg)
 .. .. hmm.. actually I should probably just build it. This doesn't seem to hard to make.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: toydivision on July 01, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
I'm SORRY but I LOVE YOU! this looks so good

I also sympathise with the difficulty in getting materials - I live in New Zealand and some things are $$$ to get shipped way down here
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 01, 2010, 11:38:00 PM
Ahh the pain of shipping. "Free shipping to the US! hell yeah! W.. wait.. Not counting Hawaii?! $35 shipping for a belt! God dammit!"

Gotta make due with what you got though.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on July 02, 2010, 02:27:00 AM
Sorry, no, i have NO 3d stuff... if I make anything the design is done on good old fashioned graph-paper.  however, i do no how you could make that, if you want.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 02, 2010, 02:46:00 AM
I haven't given it much thought yet, but whats your suggestion?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on July 02, 2010, 05:44:00 AM
there is a type of insulation that is pink and soft foam, but it is solid, not the normal fiberglass stuff.  the technical name is "fomular ridged insulation", and it's (relatively) easy to cut with a good exact-o knife.  
This is made of foam-core, and the pink foam I'm talking about.

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/145/5/d/Scratch_bolt_pistol_biuld_by_StellusLuopGuru.jpg)


This to

(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/182/e/a/Chain_sword_by_StellusLuopGuru.jpg)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/182/5/3/Chain_sword_with_prson_for_siz_by_StellusLuopGuru.jpg)

My idea is to trace the semi-circle, cut it out, add the pointy bits, then bondo/paint it.  I haven't tried to bondo the foam yet, but i think it should work.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 02, 2010, 06:51:00 AM
Not a bad idea. I'll have to check that stuff out when I'm in town next.
Thanks =D
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on July 02, 2010, 06:52:00 AM
No problem.  If you can get ahold of a hot-knife, it really helps in the shaping.

Oh, and DON'T spray it with anything before covering it, it's not pretty.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 04, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
Sheesh, I step out of the country for a few days and this is what I come back to?

Going to have to leave more often, looks fantastic!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 05, 2010, 04:46:00 AM
Heyo. I have spent a couple fairly sleepless nights working on the shin guards for my armor. I messed up the sizing THREE times. each mistake took me 4 hours to realize it was a mistake (I had to finish pepping one)
It hurt my brain and whatnot, but third times a charm I guess. Here are the pics of the shins I'm going with. I will not have a seperate kneem guard, the extended top of the shin guard covers the gap inbetween the shin/thigh armor and makes its own kneecap. I think some of the older models and chaos models have leg armor like that. I've always been a fan and one less mobile piece of armor will do wonders for my ability to walk/climb stairs etc.

Anyways here are the unfinished stuff. I have been resting the past day (I overworked myself this weekend.. I really did >.<) but will finish the sanding and do a basic paint job tomorrow. And then.. AND THEN
I will be FINISHED with the base pieces of armor! Everything else is flair and additions and cloth work. soft parts and heraldry. The finishing touches and weathering. Its a long process as I'm sure you all know, but its the fun part. This pepping bondo work has been something special tedious =P

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs018.ash2/34287_417799478296_751053296_4537243_2965713_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs038.snc4/34287_417799483296_751053296_4537244_4146532_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs132.snc4/36950_417841418296_751053296_4538563_2882377_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs033.snc4/34002_417860698296_751053296_4539257_6826549_n.jpg)
Got one more or less sanded today, then ran out of time. Happy fourth of July everyone, hope you have a good one.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on July 05, 2010, 07:52:00 AM
I think most, if not all, of the space marine miniatures have shin guards like this. Even those which looks like they have a seperate kneecap seems to be in one piece...
How much do you need to do before the suit is finished? Aside from weathering and decorations?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 05, 2010, 08:12:00 AM
I'd give it a conservative 60%
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Tango89er on July 05, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
Where do you find the time Djinn? Also, will you be making your modified files available?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 05, 2010, 06:14:00 PM
I actually all ready uploaded all of my pepakura and 3d files. Heres a rapidshare link.
http://rapidshare.com/files/404359106/Astartes.rar.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/404359106/Astartes.rar.html)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on July 05, 2010, 11:32:00 PM
this costume must be getting heavy by now man, i've been experimenting with bondo over the weekend, and it's dense!
are you going to be able to move in this armor??
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 06, 2010, 12:44:00 AM
Yeah. I should be able to move just fine. I have excellent upper body movement as it is, and while I haven't tested the leg armor fully yet (with both legs etc) once I fasten the plates in place I should be able to move easily enough. It is a heavy suit though, Not heavy enough to stop me from wearing it all day, but definately heavy enough for me to need to keep going to the gym =P
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on July 06, 2010, 12:52:00 AM
Concrete composites make for bad costumes by the way.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 06, 2010, 01:30:00 AM
Yeah, its reallynot that much bondo. This costume is mostly made of resin and fiberglass. The bondo is just a SUPER thin layer over the top of the resin to give it a nice even sandable surface and a consistent look throughout. The bondo layer probably isnt even as thick as a piece of cardstock in most places.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 06, 2010, 07:41:00 AM
WELL HERE IT IS FOLKS
THE MOMENT ONLY IVE REALLY BEEN WAITING FOR!
I got to put on the full suit of armor today! Well.. ok.. not the FULL suit.. I'm missing boots and abdomen armor, but that will come tomorrow! Don't mind the pictures.. the lighting was so bad at night You really can't see anything.. but I have to post pics anyways -.-;;
Better pics to come tomorrow.

Time to start on the heraldry and weathering!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs021.snc4/33405_418257868296_751053296_4550661_2427229_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs126.snc4/36644_418260783296_751053296_4550789_5185401_n.jpg)

I just realized this suit went from nothing to wearable in a month and 2 days. That is messed up >.<
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 06, 2010, 12:30:00 PM
Rockin'!

Looks aweswome, your speed at which you built this is nothing short of incredible!

Good job
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on July 06, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
It's amazing how fast you've made a great suit of armor- it's really an example to others that it is in fact possible to do this! Next time I make armor I may have to try this method.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Imperial Gothic on July 06, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Whilst I really really like what you've done (amazing, no doubt) My eyes can't help but nitpick at the shoulder guard length ..  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /> The shoulder pad, in my eyes, just seems a bit too ... small?

But still, amazing job! I need to see more leg armour, since thats the most underrepresented piece of armour, people do when making marines..

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 06, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
Yeah I went with a bit different length then usual. Hmm.. I gotta find a model with those kind.. They are a little shorter down the arm (exposing the bicep guards) and don't look as long. The "usual" length is ending almost at the elbow, but I had a pep file for the more evenly rounded ones.. and I had never really seen a fanmade costume pull off the elbow length pauldrons well.. so since I wasn't going for a truescale marine anyways I just went with the better looking pauldron vs the more cannon one.
I'll see if I can find a picture ..

Edit:: WELL I COULDN'T FIND THE PICTURE. It's an old screencap from that failed Inquisitor live action movie GW made awhile back. The Khorne berserkers had slightly shorter shoulder guards that showed a bit of bicep. In any case I wanted the shoulders to be scaled to my size and not truescale marine size, so shorter worked. I'm taking a liberal approach with the creative license =P
Also the picture has really nasty lighting, I'll get some better pics today.
2nd edit:: found it
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/jackdoud/40kcostumearchive/Nimba%20Creations/Chaos%20Marines/chaos-marine2.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 06, 2010, 11:27:00 PM
Spent some time thinking and looking around at pictures. Came up with a concept for the white shoulder I like. Obviously it will be bent to wrap around the face, and the color scheme is not in place yet, but yeah.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs060.snc4/35362_418488118296_751053296_4555851_4962646_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on July 07, 2010, 12:30:00 AM
That looks good, though I'd make the ribbon-thing at the base larger.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 07, 2010, 06:46:00 AM
After playing around with every color combo i had available.. I decided on this one. Going to take Seraphim's advice and make a bigger banner tomorrow, probably just going to have it say "Black Templars" - I might get a bit more creative with it though. If I get it looking right tomorrow I'll attach it.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs080.snc4/35374_418597393296_751053296_4558439_1754391_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on July 07, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Try doing something in Latin or fake Latin for the banner. "Ave Imperator" is pretty traditional, "E Nomine Imperator" would be hard to fit, but there are Latin translators online that work well enough for short phrases.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 07, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
Yeah. I might go with Defaeco Immunda (Purge the Unclean) or Vae Victus (Woe to the conquered) Maybe even Bellum Aeternum (War eternal)
There are so many awesome things I could put on there heh.
While i was thinking on it I made up a design for the right pauldron. The all black one.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs153.snc4/37009_418825393296_751053296_4563496_948686_n.jpg)
Artificer armor wutwut
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 08, 2010, 03:28:00 AM
Decided I needed to get the abdomen guard/belt up and running today. It turned out pretty good I think, still unfinished but I think it will work just grand.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs121.snc4/36398_418882978296_751053296_4564308_6895935_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs061.ash2/36398_418882983296_751053296_4564309_6207130_n.jpg)

Cross has a very thin gold border.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on July 08, 2010, 04:51:00 AM
Well that is an awesome tummy belt if I do say so myself.

Studs make everything better. Especially tummy belts! :D
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Hellwolve on July 08, 2010, 07:20:00 AM
It's looking mighty awesome, must say [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

Inspiring, very inspiring [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
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Post by: SCHRAMB0 on July 08, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
Quote from: Hellwolve date=1278588000
Inspiring, very inspiring [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
This...now that I dont have a chick living with me I can resume my regularly scheduled costume making...
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Post by: Tango89er on July 08, 2010, 02:43:00 PM
There's a black and white picture from the 3rd edition rulebook of a Black Templar holding a standard. For some reason your complete armour reminds me of that. Awesome job!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 08, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
Thanks all! I'm loosely basing my costume (at least some of the parts) off the Emperors Champion model.
(http://www.blackmoor.ca/blackmoorimages/gwsmempchamp1.jpg)

I've been toying with the idea of adding that awesome looking neck guard thing to one of the pauldrons, but if I do that it will be after everything else. Gotta figure out how to make my Tabard do that first =P
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on July 08, 2010, 08:17:00 PM
Um, when it is just below the waist it is a loin cloth, not a tabard.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 08, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
Loincloth then =P I'm pretty much going with that version so I can try and get away with not using a cod piece at all.
Also I think it looks cooler then the full tabards. Half tabard sounds better then loin cloth though <.<
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 09, 2010, 04:23:00 AM
80% FINISHED!  Lots of little things left to do and additional heraldry to add, plus I hit a few snags with the clothes underneath the armor itself (I'll be getting some under armor pretty soon) .. but.. here yah go! finally some good shots of the full armor, now with improved Tabard design!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs063.snc4/34508_419211708296_751053296_4570305_1034529_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs043.snc4/34508_419211713296_751053296_4570306_7388626_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs023.ash2/34508_419211718296_751053296_4570307_2247367_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs043.snc4/34508_419211723296_751053296_4570308_6141663_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs043.snc4/34508_419211728296_751053296_4570309_4696365_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs063.snc4/34508_419211733296_751053296_4570310_2899659_n.jpg)


Getting pretty goddamn excited, I think I may be a space marine!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on July 09, 2010, 05:47:00 AM
Holy Emperor On Terra that is AWESOME. Please Pardon the fangirl squealing, when it is all put together it looks absolutely amazing. The proportions aren't exact, but there is no way to be exact (short of stilts and arm extenders like SCHRAMB0) when Space Marines have itty-bitty heads in comparison to their bodies. You chose proportions that look great on you and that make it look like functional armor.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 09, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
I'm just happy that I appear to be pulling it off. Thanks for the compliments =D Normal people aren't meant to be space marines, but I wanted to be one dammit. None of my friends know what the hell I am, but they all think it looks cool anyways. That in itself is an accomplishment imo (the first time i saw a space marine i thought they looked extremely retarded, they grew on me though)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Tango89er on July 09, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Now you need to convert a miniature to look like you and paint it up  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
Amazing work, you're really set the standard for the Space Marine build I plan to undertake soon
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 09, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
Very well done! A few soft armor improvements and some boot covers and your done, very impresive how quickly you turnd this costume out!

Good job sir!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Bolterboy on July 09, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!! You sir have done a truly awesome job.  I for one am in awe of the time and quality of this costume
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on July 09, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
My penis exploded.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 10, 2010, 03:14:00 AM
It's a good thing that as a Grey knight, you will not really have use for it.

<3
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 12, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
Ehh some minor stuff. I'm having a friend of mine make me a neck seal instead of ordering one, hooray for bored seamstresses.
just been adding heraldry and figuring out the tabard stuff Using tea to age stuff etc.

Just a few pics~

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs192.snc4/37963_420400268296_751053296_4600867_5590374_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs017.snc4/34191_419261208296_751053296_4571146_1024430_n.jpg)

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 13, 2010, 01:13:00 AM
Been putting off the iron halo for too long now. Decided to just try making it out of foamboard (which to my great delight was fully sandable to shape) Cranked the base out in about 20m, going to bondo the hell out of it and sand it smoother then a babies ass.  

I think my brain is becoming damaged, because I'm looking forward to standing in the sun and sanding it for a hour or so.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs037.snc4/34200_420448233296_751053296_4601799_3238874_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs037.snc4/34200_420448228296_751053296_4601798_1917456_n.jpg)
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Post by: Finnlock on July 13, 2010, 05:12:00 PM
Wow, this suit is lookin' good!

I have to say this is one of my fav marine builds. But what are you planing for your boots? A boot cover or you going to make a pair from scratch?

 I have two things I think might help or might not (http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />First, thicken up the border on your loin cloth, I think it would look better with a heavier black edge or leave it with out a border ,the thin boarder is to wishy-washy IMO. (votes for border)Also, you might want to look around and see if you can find some plastic chains on the island. They look better then the light weight real chains IMO. This image I found however looks like it's made of poop. They make it in black/iron as well, I know because it's what I used in the 1st SoB armor I made.[img]http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/19363.jpg)
http://www.buycostumes.com/Jumbo-Rusty-Cha...ductDetail.aspx (http://www.buycostumes.com/Jumbo-Rusty-Chain/19363/ProductDetail.aspx)?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 13, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Here is a pic of the chain I used in the 1st SoB suit. Black/Iron colored.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4068986112_eba0a403f8.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 13, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you are right about that chain, that looks a lot better. I'll definitely have to look around. I have the feeling I won't be able to find anything like that till closer to Halloween though (The cons here are after Halloween anyways, so i will find them!)
Thanks for the suggestion. Haven't started on the boots yet, still trying to get the iron halo cleaned up proper. The foam doesn't like holding onto the bondo I found out, and its taking a lot of work to make it look good. I'll post some pics but.. I'm going to have to do a lot of repairs on it still.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 13, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs079.snc4/35288_420664128296_751053296_4606518_6908331_n.jpg)

Half finished.. maybe? I'm not happy with it yet. More bondo! The bondo was separating from the foam so I painted the hell out of it and put a thick thick protective coat ontop to seal the bondo in better and fill some cracks. Going to do another round or two of bondo/sanding on it before I give up on it though.





Also! on the tabard! I actually completely remade the tabard. It is wider at the top and attached directly to the underside of the abdomen plate. there is also one on the backside now. I needed to redo the heraldry on it (two crosses like that seemed redundant to me.. you know?) and yeah. I don't like the materiel I made it from as much (I had used Suede before lol, mmm.. suede tabard.. so fancy) but this stuff i have now is .. well.. not as fancy pretty much. I'll consider thickening up the borders, maybe even making the borders gold instead of black? I'm still working on the tabard area, the boots, the halo, and a bunch of other stuff. One thing at a time I suppose.
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Post by: Djinn on July 14, 2010, 10:29:00 PM
Derp.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs044.snc4/34577_421051323296_751053296_4614445_3529514_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on July 15, 2010, 01:15:00 AM
wow, this is really coming together, i suggest wearing a spandex sentai suit, or as i suggested, a compression shirt, long sleeved, as the baggy fabric does quit as well.
you coming to comic con?
i've got to say, your probably the only space marine fan made suit that i've seen that i'd want to hang out at a con with,  because usually they don't look right.
well done man *applauds*
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 15, 2010, 01:37:00 AM
Hells yeah! Thanks kommisar >=D
Probably not going to go to comic con, I don't have enough money to travel -.-;; I still wonder every day where I keep getting the money to buy the stuff for this current costume. When I'm done I'll probably be too broke to go anywhere with it. Not to mention I'll have to ship it if I ever want to take it anywhere off island. Job at jamba juice only gets you so far.

I certainly would love to go to comic con though. I'll have to settle for the small conventions we have here in the islands.

I swear though, if I ever make it to a mainland convention in your area - you're going to have a brother-captain of the Black Templars assisting your command squad.
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Post by: Kommissar on July 15, 2010, 04:12:00 AM
Quote from: Djinn date=1279172220
Hells yeah! Thanks kommisar >=D
Probably not going to go to comic con, I don't have enough money to travel -.-;; I still wonder every day where I keep getting the money to buy the stuff for this current costume. When I'm done I'll probably be too broke to go anywhere with it. Not to mention I'll have to ship it if I ever want to take it anywhere off island. Job at jamba juice only gets you so far.

I certainly would love to go to comic con though. I'll have to settle for the small conventions we have here in the islands.

I swear though, if I ever make it to a mainland convention in your area - you're going to have a brother-captain of the Black Templars assisting your command squad.
i work comic con, like actual staff member, i could hook you up with a ticket or two if you ever get the cash to make the trip to san diego.
just be sure to warn me a month or so before the con, because when i get my freebies, they get snatched up by my friends pretty fast.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 15, 2010, 07:42:00 AM
Hrmm.. been playing around with ideas for "whateverisgoingonmyface"

I sort of like the bionic eye.. though its obviously just a concept piece, I think it has some potential. The earcap I dunno, it would look really awesome with some modding and it would give me an excuse to have a tube coming from the suit into my head (hooray eartube?)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs097.ash2/38164_421166903296_751053296_4616471_2851075_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs194.snc4/38040_421176948296_751053296_4616613_7204818_n.jpg)

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2300/1001377.jpg)

Both maybe?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 15, 2010, 02:27:00 PM
Nice, I like the added detail of the bionics. One thing I wish Toy had been able to add to her commissar.

You should look into getting some ribbed electrical tubing, it comes in different sizes, to add to the bionics. You could use some of the larger tubes to make the stomach tubing on the armor.

(http://www.rockaroundtheblock.com.au/images/BlackSpiralTubing2.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Colin on July 15, 2010, 09:27:00 PM
Ribbed tubing - the most prodigious detail. I'm gonna have that stuff hanging from my storm bolter arm.

(http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/dingholio/Grey%20Knights/IMG_5342.jpg)

Just like that, only not as bland.

And, yeah, they make excellent tummy tubes.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 18, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
If you're up for it, I think it would look awesome to put some grey in your hair at your temples and scare up your face around the bionics. give you that grizzed vet look.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 19, 2010, 12:56:00 AM
I like your ideas. Your ideas do not require me to completely shave my head.
I will check that out =P
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 19, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
I'm running into problems with the eyepiece and earcap.. I'm probably going to just scrap both of the projects and scar my face up a bit (maybe some aging in my hair like finn suggested)
Wasting too much time trying to figure out a piece that is not turning out looking good at all :/
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 19, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
Build them out of plastic card I'd say or maybe foamies. Shame, they can look really great.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/BR_Calix/Reference/Armure202.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on July 19, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
Look for a Woochie or Reel F/X seller.  They are the "typical" halloween people.  If you want some help, I've played around with Latex Prostetics enough to have some ideas of why you might be having issues.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 20, 2010, 10:01:00 AM
Armor plates are pretty much finished heraldry wise. I'm going to add some rivets to the knee faces edge, but I need the gun first.
Cant wait till the sun comes up tomorrow and I get to put it on =P

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs057.snc4/35225_422776458296_751053296_4657002_3713393_n.jpg)

Still working on the tabard and boots, but yeah.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 20, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
Wow, looks awesome! You did a top notch job with this and in record time too.

What do you mean you need the gun 1st?


Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 20, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
Rivet gun lol. I broke mine =P
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on July 21, 2010, 02:45:00 AM
Hot glue and brads.  they work great.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: bleisle on July 23, 2010, 05:04:00 AM
This costume is awesome, You are doing a fantastic job on it. I am actually making a Black Templar bolter out of a Nerf gun so it will still be functional.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 23, 2010, 05:54:00 AM
Well, did a lot of //finish// work today. Adding bits and pieces.. Still a little bit left to do, mostly fixing placement and adding padding to hold things together and in place. finished the tabard finally.


(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs195.snc4/38084_423670848296_751053296_4677384_6794230_n.jpg)
It says:
The galaxy is the Emperor's, and anyone or anything who challenges that claim is an enemy who must be destroyed.
Lead us from death to victory, from falsehood to truth. Lead us from despair to hope, from faith to slaughter.
Lead us to His strength and an eternity of war.
Let His wrath fill our hearts. Death, war, and blood;, in vengeance serve the Emperor and the name of Dorn!
Trust in the Emperor at the hour of battle. Trust to him to intercede, and protect his warriors true as they deal death on alien soil.
Turn their seas to red with the blood of their slain. Crush their hopes, their dreams And turn their songs into cries of lamentation.
Smite now the scions of the Witch.
Grant us the strength to pierce their unclean flesh. To cover their fields with the pale form of the blasphemous dead. To drown the thunder of guns with the shriek of their dying. To lay waste to their citadels with hurricanes of fire. To wring the hearts of their kin with unavailing grief. To send them into the waste of their desolate land in rags and hunger, broken in spirit, worn with travail and begging for the refuge of the grave.
We ask it, in the spirit of wrath, O Master of Mankind.

I'm thinking about making a similar banner version for my wall.. because it looks damn cool.

I also put the armor on to test out the new bits and whatnot. Ima call it 90% COMPLETED. Got some work to do on the stomach area and hiding/tucking in soft parts.. I'm forced to do something for a cod, though I think I'm just going to armor that area on the side between the two tabards and call it good.
Anyways.. aside from doing something for my head (I didnt like the iron halo, earpiece or bionic eye I made.. sigh) I'm getting prreettyyy close.
Sadly the sun had gone down all ready so I couldnt get any well lit pictures...

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs186.snc4/37637_423682283296_751053296_4677718_4613283_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37637_423682288296_751053296_4677719_5262962_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs198.snc4/38214_423691003296_751053296_4677880_6517189_n.jpg)
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Post by: Captain Thomas on July 23, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
An awesome tabard for a rather epic costume  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
But you're right, you need something for your head... A helmet would look awesome, especially if it was something like this guy's helmet (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1400013&prodId=prod1060203)... maybe without the laurel...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: brin-milo on July 23, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
couldnt view that link...but im assuming its the emperors champ helmet hes talking about...in which case id say YES!!!! DO IT lol

and like i said on the mercs...this costume has reignited my love of the black templars and set me on the path to my costume for next years games day....an emperors champion [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /> yay
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 23, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
Dude, that's F*CKING EPIC!

really nice job. The neck seal really adds a lot to the armor.  I'd look into getting some ribbed tubbing for the stomach area and I think the loin cloth should be longer, the same leangth as the front, but your have one of the best SM suits out there.

Utterly kick ass!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: amancue on July 23, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Damn how did I miss this thread?, anyways just got it by seeing your progress @ 405th. I'm actually working on mine right now too, and you've somehow managed a much easier time w/ bondo sanding then me, my shoulders are nowhere near as rounded, I found a slightly different version of the same backpack you used and pepped it dont know if I uploaded pictures yet. I keep putting off filling it. dont want to mess it up. your details are awesome. and lucky you going w/ a chapter that uses loincloths so you dont have to mess w/ the codpiece. How are you mounting the shoulders onto the chest?. Im using a pin&block method, I attached a block in the arch of the pauldrons drilled a hole thru them then affixed a bolt thru the top shoulder area of the chest so they are removeable for transport and putting it on I also used a slightly different modified chest then you, same base design except mine doest have the 3 indents in the collar. and out of curiousity going to dragoncon this year? [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> I'd like another space marine to run around with
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 24, 2010, 08:46:00 PM
I tried a bunch of stuff to attach the shoulder bells to the breastplate - but the way I ended up doing is is sort of ghetto (well its only ghetto because i never ended up bolting it down.. its just glued to all hell in there)
Here is a picture.
(http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/1478/cimg0010.jpg)

I used some nylon strapping and clips! Just have the strapping coming straight out of the chest plate at the shoulder level, then have it attached directly to the middle of the shoulder guard with the other side of the strap. It holds it exactly where I need it to be (the length is adjustable too if I need to) is EXTREMELY easy to secure and remove. gives me impressive mobility with the shoulders and is really secure.

Might work for you since your chest-piece is similar.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: das brutus on July 24, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
Same here in Dallas... small cons, but big costumes! BTW: I'm borrowing your loin cloth concept... seen it before, but seeing it on your suit sold me on it!

GREAT BUILD!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 24, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
Thanks! I hope the loincloth works for yah, I had to teach myself to sew for mine x.@
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: amancue on July 24, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
I'm using heaps of hotglue on parts of mine, but its all in non visible locations, and when used @ boiling temps it turns rock hard so I love hotglue.
because of time I cut back my Tech Marine, this build is going to be a standard trooper probably assault, one thing that sucks though is TM's have the skirt loincloth, normal troopers have a codpiece gah. so I'm jealous of your ability to use a loincloth
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: das brutus on July 24, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
ah! Das Wife sews if I beg just right! hehe...

Also, the way you rigged the shoulders is just right! You might want to use a clear caulk to reinforce the glueing of the straps... caulk takes heat better than glue...

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 31, 2010, 03:38:00 AM
Look where you ended up!

http://cosplay.paheal.net/post/list/Warhammer_40K/1 (http://cosplay.paheal.net/post/list/Warhammer_40K/1)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on July 31, 2010, 04:01:00 AM
that;s coming together very admirably, well done man
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 31, 2010, 07:03:00 AM
AND SO IT BEGINS



Suit is finished by the way, I think I'm going to make a few stupid "XEEEENNOOOSSS" videos and generally have some fun with the armor - since there arent any conventions for a few months. I'll get more pics up later this week, but I've been surprisingly bored since finishing it.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 31, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
Make another then...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 31, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
In fact I think you should make the armor of the winning chapter of the poll...

Or find a girl willing to wear it and make a set of SoB armor...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on July 31, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
haha

I would love to start on another suit, but I have .. completely run out of money =P I pretty much built this suit using a settlement from a fender bender.
Sigh.. Hawaii is such an expensive place to live heh =P


I'll figure something out - but this has been the most fun I've ever had during a project.. and I cannot wait to show you guys the finished stuff. (well you know, as finished as costumes get anyways - I say they always hover around 98% done.)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on July 31, 2010, 11:51:00 PM
How much do you figure it cost you to make that suit?

A better question is, how much would it take for you to make a second suit knowing what you know now about building it?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: das brutus on August 01, 2010, 12:26:00 AM
or another good question... would you take a commission to build another backpack...? hehe
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 01, 2010, 01:08:00 AM
Well I went back and scoured through my last couple of bank statements and added up all the obvious purchases from wherever I had on my card.. Looks like I spent about $800 on the costume so far in parts and materials >.< Gah.. I knew I was going to end up spending a lot building it, but man x.@

Actually I figured I would end up spending a solid $1000 if not more making it - All that little crap sure adds up.

If I was to make another set of armor I could probably make it with a lot less stuff - I trial and errored a lot of things. Probably 600-700 in parts/materials.

.. I don't even want to think about how many hours I put into it =P

I could probably be convinced to make another backpack - and it would very likely be a lot nicer then my first one - considering I made a lot of big mistakes and spent way more time fixing it then anything else on my suit. It wouldn't be particularly cheap though, the materials probably wouldn't be that bad but I'm not exactly sure what my time is worth yet - haha.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 01, 2010, 03:34:00 AM
Well I'm more or less finished with the armor. I'm putting the finishing touches and weathering on it now, but mostly just figuring out how to properly attach everything for the long haul. Padding it is annoying.

My sister has been being ever so kind in helping me don the armor whenever I try it on and romp around, so I figured I'd give her a go in the armor. She was ecstatic lol. Here are some pics!

It pretty much just looks like me wearing the armor, but a little shorter XD

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs198.snc4/38234_426260993296_751053296_4747314_2491490_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs114.ash2/39059_426261043296_751053296_4747316_6978297_n.jpg)
This back shot is actually pretty good, I hadn't seen what it looked like from behind before this - few things I'm going to fix but otherwise baller
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs214.snc4/39059_426261048296_751053296_4747317_8215126_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs248.snc4/39739_426261073296_751053296_4747318_444345_n.jpg)


Anyways, fun times. Going to be finishing it fully in the next few days - then taking it out for a real photoshoot. More pictures and video will come then. I'm pretty excited.


Current project: Figuring out how to attach the BELLY TUBES
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: MalleusIST on August 01, 2010, 03:57:00 AM
::runs away in fear and intimidation.::
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 01, 2010, 04:30:00 AM
I think your sister is sexier then you in the armor.

Like the flower behind the ear.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on August 01, 2010, 04:47:00 AM
Your sister looks completely badass in that armor. Who says women can't be Space Marines? [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: MalleusIST on August 01, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
Whew, someone said it before I did.::comes out of hiding.:: Don't know how defensive ya are 'bout your sister, hence the hesitation.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on August 01, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
She'd make a fantastic Blood Angel as long as she doesn't mind a little gender-bending in her costuming.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on August 01, 2010, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: Djinn date=1280648040
Current project: Figuring out how to attach the BELLY TUBES
Hmmm, I have an idea, but it may or may not work.  If you have the space on the INSIDE of the armor, you could take some hooks, and screw them into the breast-plate, then punch holes in the tubes and hang them there, then do the same on the belt with the hooks going the other way, like this:

(http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/213/1/1/Little_design_by_StellusLuopGuru.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 01, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
Hmm... Thats not a bad idea lol. I don't have much room though, the chest comes flush against my skin so I'm probably just going to attach it directly to the chest and just tuck the tubes into the ab belt
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on August 01, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: Djinn date=1280706000
Hmm... Thats not a bad idea lol. I don't have much room though, the chest comes flush against my skin so I'm probably just going to attach it directly to the chest and just tuck the tubes into the ab belt
Thanks.  Not saying that won't work, but i do see a potential hitch.  If you don't secure the tubes, they may come out when you turn/raise your arms.  Not trying to poke holes, just want to make sure you don't end up with more problems if I can help.  As a side note, if you want something relatively easy to work with for tubes, I found that pool-pump tubes work great.  They may be a bit big for yours though.

Can you make the belt be looser?  And if you pivot the torso up can to put three fingers between it and your chest?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 01, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
Well after looking at your armor again,you don't have a lot of area to cover up with the tubing.
  I would cut the tubing in 1/2 down it's leangth and glue it to a sheet of something like craft foam.

Attach the bottom to the inside of the belt so that it can slide under the chest piece.

I would hope that by cutting it in 1/2 you will make it thin enough so it fits easly under the chest.

The foam backing, which you could trim to fit, is there to keep the tubing inplace and from spreading apart.

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 02, 2010, 01:00:00 AM
Hmmm, was working on Raven's armor and was looking at the replacement Shop Vac hose I was cutting and thought it might be perfect for your needs.

It's very flexable and a good size at 2 1/2 inches, so 3 peices would cover a larger area.

Go check it out.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41AN4DGS0FL._SS500_.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Wanglo13 on August 04, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
Absolutely brilliant build. I have never been impressed with pictures of other peoples Space Marine armor. Its always bulky looking, and cartoonish... Yours is beautiful, it looks like actual functional armor. Its scaled to your body!(what a concept)

I am so impressed by your armor that you have inspired me to FINALLY make a set of my own. Being 6'5" and 180lbs makes me a very strange size, with seeing a suit done correctly like yours, i think can scale it to look right.

Do you have any tips on dialing that in with as little trial and error as possible?


I say Bravo sir, Bravo.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 05, 2010, 01:21:00 AM
.. Thanks for the awesome compliment =D

For the sizing thing, I'm not sure. I'm considerably shorter (5'10") and about the same weight so.. Hmm.. for my sizing I built the breastplate first (using shoulder to shoulder measurements for the width so the arm holes lined up where I wanted them too) and once I had the properly sized chest piece - built the rest of the pieces off of that (using a tape measure and eyeballing it)

The hardest parts to size correctly were the shoulders, which I had to make 3 of. Actually wait no.. I had to make FOUR different sets of shin armor.

.. .. anyways yeah.. Measure yourself first, pick a big piece that everything else will be sized off of (chest is a good one) and work from there.

Edit:: Also.. don't be afraid to scratch a piece and start over again >.< I had to do this more times then I ever want to admit, but starting off with the right sized base (for what YOU want) is.. really important.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on August 05, 2010, 05:17:00 AM
Quote from: Wanglo13 date=1280968020
Absolutely brilliant build. I have never been impressed with pictures of other peoples Space Marine armor. Its always bulky looking, and cartoonish... Yours is beautiful, it looks like actual functional armor. Its scaled to your body!(what a concept)

I am so impressed by your armor that you have inspired me to FINALLY make a set of my own. Being 6'5" and 180lbs makes me a very strange size, with seeing a suit done correctly like yours, i think can scale it to look right.

Do you have any tips on dialing that in with as little trial and error as possible?


I say Bravo sir, Bravo.
Djinn's example is an excellent one to follow.  If you want some extra insurance, I'd measure everything, like he's talking about, but put it on graph-paper first, then build a piece of armor.  For odd sizing issues, you could always do a Calgar-style marine, and have twin power fists.  That would take away any issues with sizing things to arms, and help with the ever present threat of raptor-arm-syndrome.

And I'm not sure I've mentioned this yet, but your armor is very impressive Djinn.  Can't wait to see it with the chest-tubes in!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 06, 2010, 02:27:00 AM
<3 you guys.

Anyways my father (photographer) offered to do a photo shoot of sorts with me this afternoon. I hauled ass and made some major progress on //finishing// the suit once and for.. well till the next time I look at it.

I still can't figure out a good way for the belly tubes.. or atleast the tubes I have are too small and I'm completely out of money.. so I'll put those in later <.<;; Added a codpiece, sort of. A faux codpiece anyways. I might just end up making and adding one later since I think I can make it not impede my movement too much. Added more CHAINS
Lengthened and added heraldry to back loincloth.
padded the legs.. even more..
The only things I have left to do that NEED doing are the belly tubes and some sort of thigh mounted holster for my bolt pistol. (I'm been thinking about trying using rare earth magnets)

Anyways no pictures yet, but we are heading out to the ruins of an old school to get some shots in a little while. Hopefully they will come out awesome.

Anyways thanks all for your help and support, if I hadn't found this place I .. well.. would have been without a lot of great resources and ideas.
Thanks again <3
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 06, 2010, 03:47:00 AM
Sounds awesome! I know the guys behind the fan film "The Seven Jedi" which is being made/filmed in Hawaii have some great locations, one of my fav's is an old Lava flow which looks like a moonscape.

 I myself have been scouting for  some cool locations to do some photoshots..but damn it we live to close to NYC, built up like crazy..probably will have to travel to find some good "ruins".


Can't wait to see your pic's!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 06, 2010, 08:25:00 AM
Yeah Keoni, definitely has some great spots to shoot. They are over on Oahu though. They wanted me to help make props for the movie and use my mando, but alas.. wrong island.. Maybe I should just move over there all ready.

Anyways got some pretty sweet photos. My father INSISTS on editing them before I can do anything with them, but I did steal this one =P

(http://a.imageshack.us/img62/5826/fuckingbadass.jpg)

I'll post more later. Have a great weekend~
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Heretic Zed on August 06, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
Very nice shot with the wind blowing.  Can't wait to see the rest of the shoot.

@Finnlock:  if you can't find ruins, you could keep an open mind for old churches and government buildings.  A Gothic cathedral would be best but no idea how many proper ones there are this side of the Atlantic.  But in and around NYC there may be buildings in the
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 08, 2010, 04:09:00 AM
Here are a few of my favorite pics. Thank you all for following me on this journey and providing good feedback and helping motivate me. Your compliments and encouragement drove me to complete this project.

Enjoy~

(http://a.imageshack.us/img841/748/0805103877large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img185/5124/0805103873large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img210/7501/0805103870large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img834/6665/0805103860large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img72/423/0805103835large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img256/1817/0805103833large.jpg)











Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 08, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
(http://a.imageshack.us/img186/6672/0805103831large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img59/9383/0805103683large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img101/7655/0805103661large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img339/7955/0805103653large.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img820/8158/0805103636large.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on August 08, 2010, 04:51:00 AM
Holy shitsticks you are the biggest badass that ever walked the face of Terra.  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />

That is amazing work and amazing detail, and you've got the facial structure to pull it off, too. All and all, that is probably the most cohesive and well-proportioned space marine costume I've ever seen.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Tango89er on August 08, 2010, 11:12:00 AM
Simply amazing. You've inspired me to get off my lazy ass and finish the Space Wolf build I started almost a year ago. That and the fact my tax refund came in  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Now I just need a day off work  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/dry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dry.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Imperial Gothic on August 08, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
Maybe its just me.. but when I look at your face, you remind me alot of Sam Worthington!

Don't take it as a bad thing  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /> Your pictures speak for themselves, the only nic pick I could find, was the evident lack of dead enemies laying around you  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Heretic Zed on August 08, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
This may be the only time I ever use this phrase.  You Rock that Armour Hardcore.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 08, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
Great job all around!

Do you use photoshop or gimp at all? I think you could make some really bitchin' photos with a little bit of filter work!

Looking bad ass myfriend, bad ass indeed!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on August 08, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
Far be it from me to criticize what may be the most incredible suit of space marine armour I've EVER seen, but.... that bolt pistol isn't quite finished yet.  Drill out the front face of the receiver, add a barrel, and put a round in the chamber.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 08, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
Some othere photos of you have popped up online at
http://cosplay.paheal.net/post/list/Warhammer_40K/1 (http://cosplay.paheal.net/post/list/Warhammer_40K/1)

I think this one is cool. Are you going to weather the loin cloth at all? I think the weathing on the gloves is awesome, but dosen't really match the rest of the armor.. Still your suit looks fab.
(http://cosplay.paheal.net/_images/8735ced43a0f1d9fc5dda20490be54cf/23845%20-%20Azrael_The_Hammer%20Black_Templar%20Space_Marine%20Warhammer_40K.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 08, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
haha. Yeah I don't use photoshop.. but someone I know is going to edit the pictures for me. I didn't want to wait lol.

I'm going to drill the front of the pistol out - haven't done it yet though.

thanks for the kind words =D

Edit: Also funny story about the gloves finn. They are the unmodified gloves from my mandalorian. It even still says "a'den" in Mandoa on them.
I am going to buy new gloves and imperial them out soon, but the store I bought them from didn't have any in stock when I went.

I will weather the loin cloth.. eventually. Its the kind of polyester that melts not burns though, so I can't just do burn holes. I'll have to think about it.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on August 08, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
Maybe you could water down some paint to make old stains on it, and just use red paint for some cool bloodstains. Even if you can't burn it, you can tear holes in it and sandpaper it so it looks like it's been through a few battles. With some paint you could probably make a regular hole look like a burned hole.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 08, 2010, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: Djinn date=1281304440

I'm going to drill the front of the pistol out - haven't done it yet though.

I will weather the loin cloth.. eventually. Its the kind of polyester that melts not burns though, so I can't just do burn holes. I'll have to think about it.
For the pistol see if you can't place a ring inside the barrel up against the body so it looks like it's drilled out. The largest issues I think you're having is that the light is getting in there so people can see it's flush. I'll try it out on one of my bolt pistols becouse I have the same issue. I don't think drilling it out is the answer, I think infact it will make it worse.


As to the weathering...I know exactly what you can use, as long as the fabric you used dose not react badly to paint, so do a test 1st.

I use this stuff a TON on my armors, it gives a nice dirty/smokey effect to whatever you're working on.It gose on in layers so you can make it as heavy or light as you like and the paint underneth is always visable.
 It's a product made by Tamiya, called PS-31 Smoke Spray Paint.
(http://graphics.hobbypeople.net/gallery/336481.jpg)
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/336481.asp (http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/336481.asp)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 08, 2010, 09:34:00 PM
After doing a quick search, I also found this stuff
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MHmYUbdUL._SS500_.jpg)

Never used it, but I might go pick some up and see how it works... might be easier to find in an auto parts store.
http://www.amazon.com/Smoke-Headlights-Lig...r/dp/B00337ODH8 (http://www.amazon.com/Smoke-Headlights-Lights-Corner-Bumper/dp/B00337ODH8)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 08, 2010, 10:55:00 PM
Thanks a lot! I'll go check some stores out and see if what I can find.

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 09, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
Got a youtube video up. It's me putting the armor on an a few seconds of me wandering about. hope you enjoy.

Black Templar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vxIdOTMM8)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 09, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Nice video, the black and white sequence is my fav part.


I have to ask, is that your mom helping you? At 1st I thought it was your sister and then there where two of them and I was like, WTF? twins?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 09, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
lol. It's my sister and one of my female friends. She wanted to take pictures so she tagged along.

They do look a bit similar don't they.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on August 10, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
nice video, i like how youve managed to put the torso, shoulder and backpack as one piece.

and awesome, you took my advice on the underarmor.. though that may result in you overheating, its ment to be worn against the skin to keep you cool.

be proud brother marine
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 10, 2010, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: Cptn. Palladorus date=1281295200
.... that bolt pistol isn't quite finished yet.  Drill out the front face of the receiver, add a barrel, and put a round in the chamber.
I found something that migth work for you...assuming you used the same sized PVC pipe that I did to make your barrel.

 It's the cap ring from an "Honest tea" 16.9 ounce bottle. It fits perfectly down the barrel of my bolter and bolt pistols making it feasable to paint them flat black and have a inner ring to help give the impression of the barrle being bore out.


Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Fenris2012 on August 10, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
I really like that your suit allows you a very natural gait. Alot of space marine armor looks really awkward to move around in, but yours seems very easy and natural. The suit also moves well with your body.
How did you go about making the legs one complete piece? Your system seems so much easier than the convoluted method I was dreaming up!
Amazing stuff!!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 10, 2010, 06:54:00 PM
The legs took awhile to figure out tbh. You can attach the pieces all separately but it seems easier for me if I put everything on before crawling into the pants.
The thigh armor is held on by snaps (the bolt looking things at the top and bottom, they actually serve a purpose!) and the shin armor is held on by snaps at the bottom, vecro in the middle, massive amounts of padding at the calf, and a pair of straps with a three pronged clip that attaches to to thigh. The clip holds most of the weight and everything else keeps it from shifting. The clip is attached probably halfway down the shin so when I bend my leg the strap pulls directly over the top of my knee and gives me really good mobility.

Probably a little hard to picture, but I don't want to take pictures because of the ghetto methods I used to attach everything on the inside <.<;;

.. I figured no one would ever see it and used a lot of hot glue and bolts.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on August 11, 2010, 10:26:00 AM
It's very nice to see the armour "in action" so to speak. It looks awesome when you move around in it  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on August 11, 2010, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: Finnlock date=1281424020
Quote from: Cptn. Palladorus date=1281295200
.... that bolt pistol isn't quite finished yet.  Drill out the front face of the receiver, add a barrel, and put a round in the chamber.
I found something that migth work for you...assuming you used the same sized PVC pipe that I did to make your barrel.

 It's the cap ring from an "Honest tea" 16.9 ounce bottle. It fits perfectly down the barrel of my bolter and bolt pistols making it feasable to paint them flat black and have a inner ring to help give the impression of the barrle being bore out.
The barrel should not be the same size as the muzzle brake though.  It should be .75 cal, which is noticeably smaller than the brake.

As Kommissar showed us in his model, if you cut .50BMG cases down just before the shoulder, they're exactly the right size for bolt rounds.  All you'd have to do is add a round from somewhere.  As far as I know there is no true .75 cal spitzer bullet or shell in production (although 20mm is close at .787 cal but much too long) but you can probably find a good substitute in the model rocket section at a hobby shop - they've usually got a big box full of loose nose cones for scratchbuilders.

The bore ought to be bright and shiny, even if it isn't rifled.  Space Marines know that if you take care of your weapon then your weapon will take care of you.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Keithrhy on August 23, 2010, 05:35:00 AM
Damn, it looks like you could flat out sprint in that thing!!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 27, 2010, 10:29:00 AM
Sorry for shit picture. Forced to use phone camera.

Just a little teaser of the thing I started working on today. I'm sure you can see where this is headed.

(http://a.imageshack.us/img835/4580/cid0827100023.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: rodtheworm on August 27, 2010, 02:09:00 PM
Awesome.  I've no doubt that, on the basis of your last suit, this one will look incredible too.  Can I make one suggestion though?  For ease of searching, it might be best if you create a new thread for the Terminator armour.

I'm now going to look a fool if it's not a Terminator helmet WIP...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 27, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
Nah lol. I'm just making a rebreather =P
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: rodtheworm on August 27, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
*facepalm*

Damn, forgot the two looked so similar.  Should have twigged really, considering we use termie mouthpieces for Inquisitor-scale respirators on the Conclave.  I'm sure it'll still look fantastic!

...How about a Terminator suit?  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 27, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
I can't afford to make another suit for... well... till I get off my ass and get a real job. i built this suit  with a car insurance settlement (instead of fixing the dent). a $9 an hour grunt job doesn't get me very far after rent/food/Gas/life. I would love the challenge of a termie, but I won't be able too for a long while. I haven't even gotten a chance to wear this suit in public yet.

I think I'm going to try and start taking commissions to expand my knowledge and keep me busy in the. mean time. if you have anything you want made... I make a mean power pack!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Bandit 6 on August 28, 2010, 11:59:00 AM
That you do, Djinn, that you do. I'd have you make me one, but the shipping would be outrageous, and Termies don't need 'em!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: MiracleMagnets on August 28, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
Actually, I'd like to ask about the price you'd want to to make a Sister Of Battle power pack/battery pack. You look like you know what you're doing.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 29, 2010, 03:51:00 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs422.snc4/46524_435277973296_751053296_4982679_359376_n.jpg)
Bottom view of the rebreather base.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs398.snc4/46127_435277958296_751053296_4982678_3596498_n.jpg)

completed base shape! I have a TON of shit planned for this mask. There will be electronics (I have 3 different voice amplifiers I wasn't able to use for my mando, i have room to hide them on this suit. CAN ANYONE SAY VOX UNIT!?)
I am adding some earcaps, haven't designed them yet but have an idea in mind.
Then of course the color scheme and heraldry (I have a badass idea for that ^_~) The black is so I could see what it looked like evened out.

I'm pretty happy with how its turning out, it is made entirely from plastic (half trashcan half for sale sign =P) with a tiny bit of bondo to even out the edges.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: MalleusIST on August 29, 2010, 04:04:00 AM
................I might also have to point out here that you've got a good, steady design for the masks of characters from Mortal Kombat.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 29, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
It did turn out looking a lot like theirs didn't it ^_~
That is exactly what I thought when I got it together.
I went "... Huh.. .. I'm ok with this."
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on August 30, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
I have been meaning to ask, how did you do the writing on your loin cloth? did you use the iron-on transfer paper you can buy for at home printers?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 30, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
es. It worked brilliantly. I found a calligraphy font I liked and bam. If you use it make sure to print in grayscale. If your printer mixes colors to get black the image turns green when ironed on.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on August 31, 2010, 05:13:00 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs382.snc4/44548_435976038296_751053296_5004344_4740179_n.jpg)

Bam. Went to lowes and SCOURED that place for ideas. Ended up with 4 of these mothers. Looks pretty good to me.
Next step is the front grill and heraldry
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 01, 2010, 08:49:00 AM
I'm working on this stuff too much aren't I.

Rebreather is pretty much finished, I am avoiding covering the mouth with heraldry so I can still talk.. but I might end up doing it anyways.

Enjoy the pics! Will have pics of it with my full suit soon.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs187.ash2/45016_436360198296_751053296_5012979_6330955_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs187.ash2/45016_436360193296_751053296_5012978_1189041_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs363.snc4/44665_436360178296_751053296_5012977_2916794_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on September 01, 2010, 10:11:00 AM
It looks good as it is, but I think it would look better if the "grill" was made up of vertical lines instead of the round thing you're using now. I don't think I've seen any miniatures or artwork with a rebreather that has a round front...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 01, 2010, 10:57:00 AM
Good point. Maybe thats what made it look "wrong" to me. I'm fixing it, though not by replacing the grill. We'll see how it turns out.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 01, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
I agree, it looks cool, but in these photos it looks steampunk not 40k.

Of course we are looking at it with out the added background of it being seen with the armor as a whole. I think it would look okay worn as is with the armor but the squared off grill should really do the trick, that and a little weathering.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 01, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
Slight update, was playing around with it last night and changed some stuff. I will probably end up making the grill squared anyways, maybe swapping it out entirely, but I have to work so.. later on the updates.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46163_436387823296_751053296_5013418_594866_n.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 01, 2010, 04:14:00 PM
That looks great. I really like it now. I don't think you really will have to make the grill square now. the cross on the front makes a huge difference and I want to see it with the full armor!

On a related side note, when I saw the rebreather on the skull I thought it would be cool for you to make a dead marine mannequin to store your armor on.


Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: beanjavert on September 03, 2010, 01:48:00 AM
Quote from: Djinn date=1283367540
Slight update, was playing around with it last night and changed some stuff. I will probably end up making the grill squared anyways, maybe swapping it out entirely, but I have to work so.. later on the updates.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46163_436387823296_751053296_5013418_594866_n.jpg)
i don't know if this is something you could do, but pretty much every 40k needs big old bolts sticking out everywhere.  not bolt rounds, but actual bolts from things being bolted on [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />

I think it'd look even better if you could swap the screws out for those! [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 03, 2010, 02:52:00 AM
Bolts are a personal preference.
They only come in 1-2 sizes, are too fat, are too heavy, are too hard to work with.
These rounded torque screws look awesome and can be easily added wherever they are needed. I have never liked the over the top silly looking proportions and the "LOL EVERYTHING MUST BE HUEG" mindset that a lot of fans  have. Anything big and sticking out would not fit in with my armors theme, and wouldn't look good imo.


... I'm keeping it how it is <.<

I did repaint the cross to be all white with gold trim though, looks pretty sweet. I also finished the straps and stuff to make it sit on my head properly, I'll get some pics up from the torso up pretty soon
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on September 03, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
Bolts are for Orcs, rivets are for Guard.  Space Marines have smooth interlocking panels.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 03, 2010, 03:49:00 AM
I put it on for a test fit today. Just from the waist up.
I don't know about you guys, but I think this looks badass >.< I will probably cut my hair super short for events, but yeah..

This is exciting =P

(http://a.imageshack.us/img808/864/badassmedium.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: SCHRAMB0 on September 03, 2010, 04:27:00 AM
You look so effing hot!!

I mean this in the most hetero way possible.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on September 03, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: SCHRAMB0 date=1283502420
You look so effing hot!!

I mean this in the most hetero way possible.
this is all i have to say (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjY_uSSncQw)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on September 03, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
WE ARE STRONG!  NO ONE CAN TELL US WE'RE WRONG! (http://1d4chan.org/images/f/fa/1206768954856.jpg)

I like the hair.  Keep it.  Looks like you've been in the field a few weeks.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Capt. on September 03, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
This is brilliant... but one thing always bugs me... leg armour. It never comes out looking quite like the minatures... the upper torso looks amazing though. I love the detail.

I have another question... how heavy is your Chest armour and shoulderpads? and were you serious about comissions?
I have a friend over here that's toying with making Space Marine Scout armour. I'm sure we would have no objections to paying for your services and shipping from Hawaii to England if you and he are up for it.


Cptn Palladorus- that link is awesome.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 03, 2010, 03:06:00 PM
My chest and shoulders minus the backpack probably weigh about 10-12lb total? If I was making it for someone else it might come out a bit heavier (I would insist on fiberglassing the entire inside is why =P)

I was serious about the commissions thing, scout marine armor would be pretty sweet to make. You can PM me about it and I'll get back to you.


Also I agree with the legs thing, pretty hard to pull those weird proportions off right.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: SCHRAMB0 on September 03, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: Cptn. Palladorus date=1283532840
WE ARE STRONG!  NO ONE CAN TELL US WE'RE WRONG! (http://1d4chan.org/images/f/fa/1206768954856.jpg)

I like the hair.  Keep it.  Looks like you've been in the field a few weeks.
Except just take some clippers/razor and shave a nice scar-line down the head...

(also that is my new desktop)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: das brutus on September 03, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
Like the look! The Re-Breather is a nice touch! I'd consider the commission thing so long as you're able to both keep it affordable and still worth your time...

I tried the commission thang with the Halo armor, but it wound up being too expensive for the common joe, so I ended up either trading or selling my molds and moving to another universe (of gaming and costumes that is).

Keep up the good work!!!!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on September 07, 2010, 06:23:00 AM
Quote from: SCHRAMB0 date=1283502420
You look so effing hot!!

I mean this in the most hetero way possible.
That's funny, I was going to say the same thing. Seriously though, the rebreather looks great.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 07, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys =D I'm really happy with how it turned out, and I look forward to convention hopping with it. I wish we had a tabletop gaming store here on Maui that I could wander into =P

PS: also i love all the tg references. It tickles me inside in a pleasant way.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: toydivision on September 09, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
Quote from: Seraphim date=1283854980
Quote from: SCHRAMB0 date=1283502420
You look so effing hot!!

I mean this in the most hetero way possible.
That's funny, I was going to say the same thing. Seriously though, the rebreather looks great.
this.

I am so pissed I am not a dude, I want a Templar outfit so bad D:
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on September 09, 2010, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: toydivision date=1284007800
I am so pissed I am not a dude, I want a Templar outfit so bad D:
Aren't you a little short for a Space Marine.

Sorry, had to say it.


Ok, not really all that sorry.    [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 09, 2010, 03:57:00 PM
Toy: Oh right the power armor! //tears rebreather off and does a sexy hair swirl//
My name is Toydivision, Im here to rescue you!


Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: toydivision on September 09, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
Quote from: wookieegunner date=1284052320
Quote from: toydivision date=1284007800
I am so pissed I am not a dude, I want a Templar outfit so bad D:
Aren't you a little short for a Space Marine.

Sorry, had to say it.


Ok, not really all that sorry.    [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
They are like 28mm tall  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Seraphim on September 09, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
There's always the idea I had ages ago for a sister's costume- a priory of sisters that was attached to a Black Templar Crusade, and picked up the colors. It'd be a mix of Space Marine-style armor and Sister-style armor, in BT colors. Not sure how good it would look in person, though. I only ever got as far as sketches.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 09, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Look anything like this?

I think this is a nice mix of the two and looks more like power armor.

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/Terrible_Trygon/Sisters%20of%20Battle/DSCF0215.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 10, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
Dude, you totally need to rock this outfit
(http://coolminiornot.com/pics/pics7/img40f1688decd22.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Reatrea on September 10, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: Djinn date=1284062220
Toy: Oh right the power armor! //tears rebreather off and does a sexy hair swirl//
My name is Toydivision, Im here to rescue you!
*The dude's boxers fall through the Earth and into China*
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 10, 2010, 01:36:00 AM
Never been much of a Dark Angels fan. Robes over the armor always struck me as a bit .. meh. TABARDS ARE JUST FINE THOUGH BWAHAHA

honestly though I am not even going to THINK about another costume until I've worn this one our a few times ^_~ Going to crash the halo reach release party in a few days, but honestly halloween needs to hurry the hell up.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Jack A on September 11, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
Hey, the rebreather looks really good, can you stick some more in depth pictures up of how to make it? I'd love to DJ in it although i obviously couldn't have anything over my ear's..... Thanks
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 12, 2010, 01:42:00 AM
I didnt actually take any pictures of the early stages of it, I didn't have my camera at the time and pretty much just took pictures of it near finished.
I'll see if I can dig something up though.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Jack A on September 12, 2010, 01:44:00 AM
Thanks man!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 12, 2010, 02:02:00 AM
Quote from: Jack A date=1284228900
Hey, the rebreather looks really good, can you stick some more in depth pictures up of how to make it? I'd love to DJ in it although i obviously couldn't have anything over my ear's..... Thanks
It looks from the photos Djinn posted that the ear pieces are old headphones...perfect for DJ's ( or DJinns)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Jack A on September 12, 2010, 02:03:00 AM
Yeah, they do look something like that, but i have to pull my headphones on and off A LOT
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Jack A on September 15, 2010, 01:56:00 AM
Hey, sorry to ask again and bug you especially as you just introduced the new skin for the site but i would love some help making the rebreather, it looks AWESOME!!
Thanks
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 15, 2010, 02:34:00 AM
Oh right yes sorry. I'll go take some close up pics.
Just so you know though, its pretty much just a freehanded idea I had. It ended up looking a lot like the mortal combat Scorpion or sub zero masks before I covered it in imperial heraldry.
(http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9331/cimg0376large.jpg)
I started with a shape roughly like this, but made out of cardboard (freehanded) I kept pressing it to my face in the shape i wanted the cardboard and cutting at it till I got what worked for me. Then I transferred that to 3mm plastic.
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/195/cimg0375a.jpg)
I bent it to this shape and used a propane blowtorch to heat the sides to the point of just starting to melt, then got it positioned how I wanted it and ran cold water over it to cool it. Felt like a goddamn blacksmith, but with plastic.

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3194/cimg0381large.jpg)
A look at the inside currently. I didn't even try to make it look pretty on the inside, hence the copious amounts of hot glue and unsanded bondo =P I just wanted it to work.
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4772/cimg0379large.jpg)
Side closeup (Aerators are just that, sink aerators from your local hardware store, the earcap is some part of a washing machine or something)
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5563/cimg0377large.jpg)
The noseguard construction, the elongated triangles are just that, triangles cut out of plasticard (for sale signs) and glued in place, I pretty much just cut shapes and trimmed them until I built the shape I wanted roughly, then I sanded the edges flat, filled holes, bondo'd it, sanded it down again, and bam.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1882/cimg0372.jpg)
I did the same thing to the chin, bits of plasticard until I got the shape I wanted. I had to make a chin on it that was far enough down that I could open my mouth to speak, so if you try it like this you should keep that in mind (closed mouth is not the only position)

Hope that helped.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Jack A on September 15, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
Cheers! I'll get building and hopefully add some pics soon! Thanks again
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on September 15, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
Does the electronics work? How about a video demonstration?  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 27, 2010, 08:44:00 AM
What do These objects have in common? Stay tuned to find out! (God this is a stupid idea)

(http://www.volumestereos.com/store/images/sps-400.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs018.ash2/34266_414259738296_751053296_4448719_5955079_n.jpg)
(http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ipod-touch-5.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 27, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
hehe, I had the same though, I was going to use a shuffle though, because they are smaller and lighter. Only thing is, now you're a noise marine... [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 27, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
For the Emperor and the name of Dorn! Let there be BASS!
*unce unce unce*
I might not do it tbh. It would add extra weight and hassle for a coolness factor. I should probably get the more important changes done first. I have to reinforce the inside of everyhing.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: SCHRAMB0 on September 27, 2010, 07:12:00 PM
Techno Viking = Space Wolf Primarch
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 27, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6783/spacewolvesbyskor23d.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 27, 2010, 11:19:00 PM
wow...just wow... nice corn rows....You look like you're ready to stand in line for the new vanilla ice CD... [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on September 28, 2010, 12:09:00 AM
Hey! Thats Techno viking! Watch your tone!
(http://www.whowouldkickass.com/_images/t_large/23e2ae931a0d30feb1a874f003452105.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Imperial Gothic on September 28, 2010, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: Djinn date=1285646940
Hey! Thats Techno viking! Watch your tone!
(http://www.whowouldkickass.com/_images/t_large/23e2ae931a0d30feb1a874f003452105.jpg)
There's nothing more epic, than TECHNO VICKING ( I even have him listed as my religion on facebook XD )
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: jackdoud on September 28, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/jackdoud/Philly%20GB/image.gif)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on September 28, 2010, 03:32:00 PM
lol, I have to say, I did not recognize him, I though you had grafted your own face n to the image.


Okay, it's the techno remix of villain ice [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Vrogy on October 02, 2010, 12:03:00 AM
I never lol'd at technoviking..   until I noticed the socks don't match.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 03, 2010, 08:26:00 PM
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1213/cimg0352.jpg)
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8682/cimg0339.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2012/cimg0357h.jpg)


finally dug up some pictures of me at the Halo : Reach premiere. Interestingly enough, almost everyone knew what I was.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 03, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
Awesome, looks great, I like the update to the gloves.

Do you have any ideas to cover up the area between your neck and the base of the chest armor? In that 1st picture it seems really exposed.

It's weird, but the cross on the rebreather looks more like a star burst in these pics
I think it's because of the sharper,deeper  angles of the cross.

Still one of my fav Marine builds [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />


 Speaking of gloves, what did you use as the base for them?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on October 03, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
Awesome  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
You just need a bike in matching colours  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 03, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2629/127/101/751053296/n751053296_1682430_8016235.jpg)

I used these as the base. "Repelling gloves" from a military surplus store. Pretty sweet tbh.
I will probably work on them more, I just hastily put the cross there to have something for that night.
For the neck area, i have been thinking about that, maybe some application of TUBES will be necessary.

Also cap, I can imagine cruising down the road on a BT chopper in thar armor.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 03, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Wow, those are very cool and look great.

For the neck, this might bee something to give the armored look. It's a clone trooper neck seal

(http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/starwars_new_republic_commando_neck_seal_1.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 03, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
I couldn't get anyone in hawaii to make that for me, so I ended up making my own neck seal. I agree I need something for that area though, I'll figure something out.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Capt. on October 04, 2010, 04:00:00 AM
Fantastic pictures Djinn!
I love the armour... definately impressed.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Reaps on October 04, 2010, 04:26:00 AM
Mad props for skills.  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: brin-milo on October 04, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
thats the republic commando neck seal if im not mistaken

and this looks awsome mate!

we'll HAVE to troop some time when my BT terminator sargent is done! [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 04, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: brin-milo date=1286208240
thats the republic commando neck seal if im not mistaken
/\ = is correct

< = is wrong, stands corrected [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Imperial Gothic on October 04, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
So.. where do you get this neck seal? I've been trying to find a vendor for them - but no luck so far..
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 04, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: Imperial Gothic date=1286221560
So.. where do you get this neck seal? I've been trying to find a vendor for them - but no luck so far..
http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/imperial.htm (http://www.shadowdalecreations.com/imperial.htm)

scroll down a bit
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: jackdoud on October 04, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
Shadowdalecreations has a poor reputation in the star wars costuming community so tread carefully.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 04, 2010, 05:49:00 PM
A few of my buddies in the 501st pointed me to one of their members who makes the RC neck seals, they were like $60 though, so I just made my own heh.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 19, 2010, 03:26:00 AM
Well I haven't done anything with the armor in forever (well, havent posted anything)
I have redone the Hammer (the wings kept peeling up, and I needed it dealt with, so I came up a solution)
BOLT EVERYTHING DOWN.

I also fully broke a piece off the back of the chest piece, but I have since repaired it and redid a lot of areas on it. I reinforced everything with fiberglass so its not going to break if I wander around in it too long.

Here is a picture of the updated heraldry on the Hammer, the little holes will all be filled with little screws (torque heads). It looks pretty boss on there, but I just thought I'd post some detail of it, still doing stuff with the hammer before I attach them.
I got pretty good with a razor knife doing this project -.-
(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/1729/newhammer.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 19, 2010, 03:55:00 AM
Very nice job, those look amazing!

How big are they?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 19, 2010, 03:56:00 AM
9.6 inches across
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on October 19, 2010, 08:05:00 AM
What are they made of?
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 19, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
.. guess I should have added that to the post haha, I make pretty much all of my heraldry out of plastic sheeting, in this case, a for sale sign =P
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Capt. on October 20, 2010, 01:52:00 AM
They're still impressive.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 21, 2010, 03:17:00 AM
Yeah, great paint job on them, looks like sheet metal.

Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Zac on October 23, 2010, 12:03:00 AM
I had too much fun doing the SOB earlier, so I did a photoshop of your costume as well. Hope you don't mind:

Area Secure:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/ZAChos/cimg0357h.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 23, 2010, 02:45:00 AM
... AAWWWW yeah
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 24, 2010, 06:37:00 AM
Bam.
(http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/2797/cimg0429i.jpg)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: aidan on October 24, 2010, 06:59:00 AM
How did you make the hammer? it is awesome! [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 24, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
Looks cool.

  I have to say I liked the blue and while I know you had to rivit all the wing edges down I liked the look of the 1st one better. Can we get a shot from farther away, maybe you holding it so I can get a sense of how it looks in scale?

Maybe you could cast the sides of hammer and get a nice raised aquila that way?
and perhaps a little silver sharpie weathering along the edges?

Anyway, I'm nit picking , it looks awesome and is one hell of a cool ass weapon.

Aidan, DJinn made a great tutorial on this, you can find it here..

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Obscurus_Crusad...p?showtopic=180 (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Obscurus_Crusade/index.php?showtopic=180)
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: aidan on October 24, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Thanks Finn,I'm new to the site so... Anyway  keep up the good work  Djinn! You,
 Finn and many others on this site have inspired me to try my hand at this.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Captain Thomas on October 24, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
While the red glow looks cool, I'm with Finn, I liked blue glow better... It's still a kick-ass hammer though  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 24, 2010, 05:30:00 PM
.... Iliked the blue glow better too I think.
Thankfully LEDs are cheap as hell, so the blue might return.
Not much to be done about the wings, it was rediculously annoying trying to get hem to stay down lol
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on October 24, 2010, 05:36:00 PM
Quote from: Finnlock date=1287925680
while I know you had to rivit all the wing edges down I liked the look of the 1st one better.
Honestly, I think it would look better with pop rivets instead of screws.  But overall, I think it is pretty cool looking.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on October 26, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs834.snc4/69427_457328088296_751053296_5402401_4450183_n.jpg)

Just some small updates, finishing little things in preparation for Halloween. Here is the finished gloves, I finally attached the heraldry properly =P

Next up is some kind of holster for my bolt pistol.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Finnlock on October 26, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
Glove looks cool.

I have been working on a holster for a bolt pistol as well. I will be interested to see how your's turns out becouse my 1st attempt ended poorly...I think I need ot redesign my bolt pistols with a holster in mind...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: das brutus on October 27, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
Another idea for the "holster" is "Earth Magnets"... a few well placed and strong magnets inside the legs/thighs combined with some equally strong on or in the bolter and BOOSH!!!!!! Magnetic connection! The guys and gals that do the Predator builds use them all the time for the bio masks and various other pieces...

MAGNETS (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=10)

If you do an area of, say, about 2 square inches on the inside of the leg armor where your hand naturally drops, and the same area on the bolter, it'd work. Paint up the bolter magnets if not placed inside the bolter... as I said --- BOOSH!!!
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: wookieegunner on October 28, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
The issue with using magnets is that they are very strong when pulling in the direction of the field axis (for a cylinder magnet this is the direction of the cylinder's height).  For example a 2"x1/8" takes about 30 lbs of force to pull off of a steel plate:

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DY02 (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DY02)

Now if you look at the direction perpendicular to the axis it is much weaker.  This means that you can theoretically mount the bolter where you can't pull it off but it's own weight will cause it to slide off.

BTW, if you do go with magnets, K&J is where I always buy the magnets for my armies.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cptn. Palladorus on October 28, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
There's a simple solution to that though: rotate the magnets 90 degrees, so its own weight won't be able to pull it off but drawing it would be relatively easy.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Hellwolve on October 28, 2010, 01:39:00 PM
Or too hard, depending on your outlook...
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: nog3 on February 07, 2011, 01:12:00 PM
Hey Djinn, would it be possible for you to re-upload that rar of the PDO files?

Unfortunately some of the files are coming out as 0kb afterwards.
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cybertress on June 07, 2011, 08:23:00 PM
as i'm very impressed of this costume, and the search is currently down i may ask if there is any tutorial on pepakura? what paper do i use? normal printerpaper or has it to be something stronger? maybe a g/m
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: amancue on June 07, 2011, 08:30:00 PM
paper is Cardstock in the U.S. its referred to as 110lb bond I know you can look it up to see what that equates to in deutschland

the resin he used is stardard polyester resin, avail from most hardware,automotive and stores like wal-mart (stateside) I believe he used bondo brand an imprint of 3M

and as for tutorials check out this Pep Vidz (http://pepvids.cz.cc/)
also check out The 405th (http://405th.com) they have a lot of pep tutorials
and is probably the largest single pep enthusiast site around dont let the Halo-centric theme scare you away its got a lot of good information
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Kommissar on June 07, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
hes updated his armor to include a higher collar and helmet now.
but hes also moving to SD in like two days so i would assume hes pretty busy with that.
hopefully he will be settled soon
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: amancue on June 07, 2011, 09:07:00 PM
wow I hadnt heard he's moving to the mainland maybe we'll actually run into him @ cons then
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Djinn on June 07, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
Yessir! Everything is all boxed up and getting shipped today. I'm so paranoid about my armor I'm bringing the helmet in my carry on, its pretty funny.
Should be getting into SD around the 10th, I'll be pretty busy  these next couple of weeks.
Still, glad you like the suit, and amancue pretty much nailed it as to the places to look for pep and what I used for mine. 405th really is an amazing resource for understanding pep (its fairly simple really).
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Cybertress on June 08, 2011, 12:17:00 AM
if one of the shippingguys breaks your armor i'll personally come over to get blood for the bloodgod and his skull for the throne! [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

gonna try the pep stuff later, i found the rar you posted with all the stuff you found usefull in making this suit and the wooden skeleton in the guide.pdf impressed me so i'll start over with that one (gonna use gpr instead of foam)

by the way that was the single most impressive .rar file i've ever downloaded in my lifetime (and i downloaded shitloads of em)

thank you so much [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

this was post from my iphone
Title: Black Templar : Azrael the Hammer (WIP)
Post by: Daeouse on June 29, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
I saw this armor originally on the Mandalorian Mercs boards, and now I see it here, and it's still fracking amazing!!! [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />  [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />

Excellent work! I hope my S.M. comes out half as well! [img]http://i6.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rolleyes.gif' />